keg Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Not convinced but what do the posse think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Surely obesity is a self-imposed condition, and as such why should the affected 'benefit'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Classing it as a disability has huge financial implications for the country when you take into account the number of obese people we have. It all depends how obese you have to be to qualify, In severe cases of obesity disabilities are usually a secondary result anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye18 Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Greedy and idle.The obese need beasting round a field everyday allday till theyre a normal weight.self debilitation shouldnt be rewarded with anything.of course there will be people with genuine medical problems out there but from what i see out in town everyday is idle over eaters that live off maccy dees chocolate and gregs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Self inflicted. Piabetes and salad-dodge-itis. And thats from a mild 'sufferer'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Given that many benefits scroungers are overweight might they now be able to claim disability and get a bit more in handouts. As Nigel needs to serve this group well, he will need some cracking new policies on disability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fella Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Surely obesity is a self-imposed condition, and as such why should the affected 'benefit'? Aye, just like smokers and their smoking related illnesses. I hope this works out anyway, could do with a blue badge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) Given that many benefits scroungers are overweight might they now be able to claim disability and get a bit more in handouts. As Nigel needs to serve this group well, he will need some cracking new policies on disability actually the ruling was it "could be a disability" in certain situations, not that it was a disability, nor was benefits or scroungers mentioned , but dont let facts cloud your bigoted its everything to do with benefit scrounger mentality. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-30529791 KW Edited December 18, 2014 by kdubya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fern01 Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Does that mean I can have a free car and be able to park right next to the door at Asda? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) Not convinced but what do the posse think? nor am I, it's preventable, just stop eating too much and walk to the shop instead. it's up to the individual of course but if it's beginning to cause problems like being unable to tie your shoes then it's an obvious sign that something is going wrong and not just an excuse to buy slip on shoes Edited December 18, 2014 by Paddy Galore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Given that many benefits scroungers are overweight might they now be able to claim disability and get a bit more in handouts. As Nigel needs to serve this group well, he will need some cracking new policies on disability The ruling only covers those in work, not 'benefit scroungers'. Thank God King Nige can now concentrate on more important issues than obesity eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longspoon Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 The world has gone mad......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) The world has gone mad......... It has, the amount of people that cant read is truly astounding. KW Edited December 18, 2014 by kdubya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 I wondered who would throw that grenade into the forum Keg I think as KW said the ruling on the Danish fat chap was fairly specific so it's not an open invitation for abuse of the system, although I suspect that it wont be too long before there is a test case in the UK. I have seen a few things fairly recently of fat people looking for protection under the DDA in work places. This ruling from the ECJ that puts further pressure on our domestic immigration policies. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30528189 Those pesky Euro's do seem determined to intensify this debate in the UK. It has, the amount of people that cant read is truly astounding. KW Or do sums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 I wondered who would throw that grenade into the forum Keg I think as KW said the ruling on the Danish fat chap was fairly specific so it's not an open invitation for abuse of the system, although I suspect that it wont be too long before there is a test case in the UK. I have seen a few things fairly recently of fat people looking for protection under the DDA in work places. This ruling from the ECJ that puts further pressure on our domestic immigration policies. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30528189 Those pesky Euro's do seem determined to intensify this debate in the UK. Or do sums there are some on here that think percentages are relatives. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Obesity has a huge knock on cost to the country and bariatric care costs are increasing year on year. I've not read the articles but I imagine it is a clarification of the legal status of some folk rather than anything else. I've no doubt that being massively obese can be a disability that prevents someone living a full and normal life, but so can mental illness and only a fraction of people with mental illness are classed as disabled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willxx Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 The article actually say the Danish chap in question does not consider his weight an issue and the case was taken up by his union. He's now employed - and as a lorry driver which will most likely not help in any attempt at weight loss! Can't let facts get in the way of another perfect platform for our UKIP Brownshirts, sorry, UKIP Tattersallshirts to get worked up about can we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Surely a disability is an affliction not a self induced state ! Typical EU nanny nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Some employers help alcoholic staff for example, so why not fat people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) The article actually say the Danish chap in question does not consider his weight an issue and the case was taken up by his union. He's now employed - and as a lorry driver which will most likely not help in any attempt at weight loss! Can't let facts get in the way of another perfect platform for our UKIP Brownshirts, sorry, UKIP Tattersallshirts to get worked up about can we? I intend to vote UKIP I also thoroughly object to your reference of "brownshirt" do you actually know what is behind that term and what the SA where? if so on apology for calling me a nazi will be accepted. KW Edited December 18, 2014 by kdubya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Some employers help alcoholic staff for example, so why not fat people. Give it a year or two and that will likely become a mandate for employers. As Falcon pointed out dealing with obesity is a huge cost and it does need managing to prevent issues arising. It wont be long before we see some rules govern food served in workplace canteens and what not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 As Falcon pointed out dealing with obesity is a huge cost and it does need managing to prevent issues arising. How do you manage it, you can't force people to stop overeating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 How do you manage it, you can't force people to stop overeating. True but you can stop them eating vast amounts of sugar without realising it. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) True but you can stop them eating vast amounts of sugar without realising it. Possibly but you will find most obese people know exactly what they are eating, and what's in it. Some people find fat birds attractive and feed them up. Edited December 18, 2014 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esox Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Possibly but you will find most obese people know exactly what they are eating, and what's in it. Some people find fat birds attractive and feed them up. Ive tackled worse.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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