moose man Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Afraid I'm on the put it down side , its a dog you could never trust 100%.I certainly wouldn't let it anywhere near kids .Shame because they are great little dogs buts its a case of safe before sorry .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenshooter Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Afraid I'm on the put it down side , its a dog you could never trust 100%.I certainly wouldn't let it anywhere near kids .Shame because they are great little dogs buts its a case of safe before sorry .. ...and you would trust ANY dog 100%?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 I can't imagine it will be much cop for picking up. This one has a surprisingly big mouth though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike737 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Without knowing all the circumstances, it's very difficult to be objective. We've owned and bred over a dozen Pyrenean Mountain Dogs, since we married in 1973. Not one ever bit, attacked or was aggressive to us or our children, who all grew up with the dogs. On one occasion we heard a whining sound coming from the kitchen; went in and found our daughter, in her high-chair, hand in dog's mouth, gripping its tongue and pulling like hell, as she had been feeding the dog her Reddy Brekk, and was trying to get it back! The 9 stone dog just sat there yelping, but did no harm to our daughter at all. Perhaps we were just lucky, but maybe it was the way the dog was 'brought up'. It was about 40 years ago... A friend of ours, who also owned a PMD, was attacked by it, but it was found to have a brain tumour. Difficult to say why a dog does anything... Mike. Edit - spelling Edited January 5, 2015 by Mike737 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 This one has a surprisingly big mouth though Hard as well by the sounds of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 You could try http://www.terrierrescue.co.uk/ https://www.dogstrust.org.uk/ I just love the way some people think one little bite and its take it out in the woods and blow its head off. tell me about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) I think u and ur daughter were posibly very lucky. My mother tells a story when i was a tot she came round onto the front garden at my grampa's and reckons i had my head in his dobermans mouth? No idea if it was as bad as she says as his dogs were pretty wild so there is no doubt i was lucky too. Without knowing the full story it's impossible to say wot u should do. I'd say it needs rehomed at the very least but u have to be 100% honest and go to an experienced dog man. But at end of the day why take the risk? I bet all the parents/owners of dogs that have attacked kids thought there dog never would! But i would say i'm not in the 'it was only 1 little bite club' Do u have an upper limit on how many bites is aceptable or how 'little'? When does 'litle' become large. That to me is highly iresponsible dog ownership. Should never trust any dog 100% with kids Edited January 5, 2015 by scotslad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roostshooter1 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 It would be a shame to have the dog put down because it reacted to being bearen with a rolled up paper if he hit me with a rolled up paper he would be picking all his teeth out the carpet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinFerNan Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Interesting debate. Firstly I hope your mate is OK, despite his possible dog ownership shortcomings, it's never nice to hear of someone being bitten. My 2p worth is that I would not want to keep a dog that had bitten aggressively. However a defensive bite may be another thing entirely. We have a rescued Whippet boy who had never been taught any manners by his (elderly) previous owners. We'd had him a couple of weeks, and one of the issues was he was not (and still is not) allowed on our furniture. This was clearly a problem for him to get his little head around, as well as all the other changes in his new life with us. One night he crept up onto the settee and I approached him and waved him off, he snapped at me and made contact with my hand. If I'm honest at the time I was furious, there was no blood or punctures, even though it did sting a bit! But, given the lack of discipline in his previous life and that he'd not adjusted to us, I was prepared to give the little fella a 2nd chance. This situation is way too complicated to fully explain here. But trust me, both my Wife and I are very experienced dog handlers. The upshot is, he has now settled fully into his new home and regime with us. He CERTAINLY knows who is in charge, and it is absolutely NOT him. He is now regularly exercised, trained, fed and loved; and has learnt to play fight without getting stressed, and I now fully trust him (as much as you ever really can) He has also earned his Gold Medal from the Kennel Club training scheme. He's not perfect, but I am really glad we did not just give up on the little chap. You see, it really was not his fault. I really hope you find someone who knows what they are doing to take your mates dog on, otherwise I'm afraid it's got to be end for him. Here is our rescued fella : Edited January 5, 2015 by FinFerNan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 it has to e said this dog may not have ever bitten anybody if it wasnt being hit, i guess its possible it thought it was defending its self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Let's face it it's little to do with the reprimand. I could smack mine with a rolled up paper all day and wouldn't get bitten. When a dog has effectively gone at its owner then if you can't work through it then it's actually kinder to have it put down rather than passed from pillar to post. You must have a very forgiving dog, if you went at my dog with a rolled up paper you would loose your fingers and more than likely an arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) it has to e said this dog may not have ever bitten anybody if it wasnt being hit, i guess its possible it thought it was defending its self. What makes you think that the dog has the rite to defend itself only people have that rite if people do it they get a pat on the back if a dog does it they get put down who said that life is fair I tend to think that a lot of people would do better getting one of these dogs. Edited January 5, 2015 by four-wheel-drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Has the dog been neutered and is it a dog or a bitch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Westies are capable of taking down bigger dogs... My Rotty was killed by one a few years back..............it got stuck in its throat..Seriously...I cant believe I'm reading this thread...potentially another dysfunctional and unhappy dog due for the lethal..... all down to the deficiencies of its owner.Hit the dog with a rolled up Newspaper... dear oh dear...I'm surprised it didn't bite his knackers off let alone his finger.Tell him to get a goldfish or a gerbil..."The breed can be good with children, but will not always tolerate rough handling. The Westie is an active breed, but are social with a high prey drive, as they were once used to hunt rodents." Sounds like the dog has been knocked about a bit and has reacted in the only way it knows how. Edited January 5, 2015 by Fisherman Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Reacted in the only way it knows how?-I dont think that biting a human should be something that a dog considers an option-I can make my dogs hide in their beds with just the tone of my voice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Reacted in the only way it knows how?-I dont think that biting a human should be something that a dog considers an option-I can make my dogs hide in their beds with just the tone of my voice My point entirely... no need for a rolled up newspaper... Any dog if beaten will react in a defensive form of aggression sooner or later... It in their genes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveboy Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Was the dog trying to bite him or the newspaper??? If his finger was under the paper the dog might not have even known it was grabbing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose man Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 ...and you would trust ANY dog 100%?? I stand corrected ..I don't trust any dog 100% ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 I stand corrected ..I don't trust any dog 100% ..... Not with sausages. I trust them about 1% with sausages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 i have little sympathy for this guy and quite alot for the dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenshooter Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 8 miles from me in Abergavenny . South Wales Thanks. I passed on details to my mate. May be a bit far........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Some dog breeds have been over stretched - where did it come from? A small dog on its own with a mature owner, and the owner gets his finger, well, 'savaged'. Even the stroppiest dogs I've come across won't bite the hand that feeds / walks it. There is the small chance the dog is not right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Precisely and if they know the pecking order then you can correct them, whether with a paper or a grab to the scruff. When they react in this way it means they think they are boss, if it's entire then having its balls off might help but depends if you want to take the chance. At least with a westie it's unlikely to get the upper hand! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 At least with a westie it's unlikely to get the upper hand! Or indeed the whole hand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) This problem would never have occurred if the dog was taught its place and bite inhibition in the first place as a pup. Scruffing it is meeting aggression with aggression in my opinion - the problem will only escalate or manifest itself in another unwanted behaviour and will never correct the root cause - PARTICULARLY if it's a show of dominance. (A somewhat outdated theory, btw, but not without its place) Nobody can give advice without seeing the dog and its perceived ranking in the household hierarchy - and that's after a trip to the vets to rule out neurological problems if it's a sudden change of temperament. As "it was a nervous little thing" I think it has has had a confusing and hard time growing up and its more likely to be nervous aggression. Edited January 7, 2015 by bigbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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