Richie10 Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 No not the owners fault it was stolen but it was his fault it was left vulnerable to be so easily stolen. End of the day it was in a locked car in a public place. The guy was very unlucky. If I go anyway with the gun in the car. it will either be in a visible place or where I can keep an eye on it. We all make mistakes sometimes, but in this case, the guy didn't go to the pub expecting his car to be broken into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69chris Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) so it was a transit connect van ? it doesnt say which window was broken so we can also assume it may have been a rear door window and the gun was hidden under (at least) a coat ? prob some scumbag hoping to snatch a genny/power tools or other easy to sell items usually left in the back of a van, , i wouldnt be suprised if the gun isnt already at the bottom of a river/canal i hope they go easy on the guy and he doesnt lose his ticket just because hes been a victim of theft Edited January 30, 2015 by 69chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 hopefully he wont lose his certificate.and I bet it will make him a much more carefull owner in the future if he does keep it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxon T Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 If he took it in to the pub instead and needed a wee should he take it with him? Probably more dodgy having it in the pub I feel than in a van. Also might give the chap at the next urinal a bit of stage fright! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveboy Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 He was a off duty paramedic who was waved down by his mates as the local vicar in the pub was having a heart attack. He quickly chucked his coat over his gun in the back of his van and ran in to help (saving the vicars life) He came back to his van to find the rear window smashed and the gun gone. (I made all this up but you can see my point) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew f Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Done nothing wrong in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Last Saturday, I was on a game day. Stopped at a supermarket to get myself a sandwich, etc for lunch. Gun left in slip in the boot of the car - as I will do again tomorrow. After the shoot, a load of us often stop off at the pub, to reflect on the day and have a natter. Again, gun left in the boot. All those criticising him, what would YOU be doing in these cases ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Last Saturday, I was on a game day. Stopped at a supermarket to get myself a sandwich, etc for lunch. Gun left in slip in the boot of the car - as I will do again tomorrow. After the shoot, a load of us often stop off at the pub, to reflect on the day and have a natter. Again, gun left in the boot. All those criticising him, what would YOU be doing in these cases ? Same as I do. We very often end up in the pub after a shoot. Sometimes if I am not driving might have a couple of pints. I am now thinking of handing myself in to the police for my reckless behaviour and can obviously expect to have the book thrown at me and end my days being Big Rons bitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon69 Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 when we went on holiday to the lake district, the FLO advised us to leave the guns in the car and keep the foreends with us or leave them in the cottage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 I recently went into Sainsburys with the foreend of my O/U in my pocket. Remember that sketch from Blackadder "is this a canoe in my pocket or am I glad....... I did get a few odd looks, I thought taking the barrels or the stock in would cause a riot. It does pay to remember that there are plenty of thieves still about, despite the drop in crime stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rst1990 Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) Unfortunately guys we live in a society that if you leave any of your guns in a car, YOU run the risk of them getting stolen. Obviously the thief is at fault but also the sgc holder. Shorley everyone knows cars, vans etc get broken into on a daily basis, right? Also if you know your gonna be leaving your gun in the car why not take a rucksack with you and break it down and take it with you? Edited January 30, 2015 by Rst1990 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Never stops Bostondick from having a swipe though. Oh dear has someone got a different view to yours.Thats life im afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Unfortunately guys we live in a society that if you leave any of your guns in a car, YOU run the risk of them getting stolen. Obviously the thief is at fault but also the sgc holder. Shorley everyone knows cars, vans etc get broken into on a daily basis, right? Also if you know your gonna be leaving your gun in the car why not take a rucksack with you and break it down and take it with you? So do houses, so what do you do? Carry all your worldly goods around with you all the time and get mugged. So what happens if someone nicks your rucksack or the gun falls out of it in the middle of a supermarket. There are so many scenarios of what/could happen. It's bad luck for the holder, nothing more or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolkngood Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 What's the betting if from now on we all choose to carry our guns with us rather than leaving in locked car it wouldn't be long before one of us was approached by the authorities and told not to carry it an to leave in vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 If some low life scum decides to break into my locked car I still don't see that it would be my fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn2233 Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 If some low life scum decides to break into my locked car I still don't see that it would be my fault.+1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy220 Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 we often end a days shooting with a pint in the pub and always ask the landlord if we can bring the guns and dog in with us. Is this allowed? We often get some local pipe up saying we shouldn't or "don't shoot" ect but wouldn't risk leaving in the car as generally were all camo'd up and obvious what we have been doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Totally Irresponsible and shouldn't be a licence holder imo , throw the book at him What book would this be? War & Peace? Wizard of Oz? Playboy? There could be many reasons for the theft and not everything is black and white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 I recently went into Sainsburys with the foreend of my O/U in my pocket. Remember that sketch from Blackadder "is this a canoe in my pocket or am I glad....... I did get a few odd looks, I thought taking the barrels or the stock in would cause a riot. It does pay to remember that there are plenty of thieves still about, despite the drop in crime stats. [ Or that is what you told the girl on the checkout !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Not too far back there was an incident at a local game shoot where several cars were broken into and guns taken. This occured during lunch, with the vehicles parked outside the lunch hut, on a field. It would suggest prior knowledge and not just opportunist. Without knowing the full facts of this incident it is impossible to comment, but I doubt there are any on here who, hand on heart, have not done something similar. Even at clay grounds, guns are locked in cars whilst people eat or drink in the clubhouse. I prefer to see guns locked in cars than unslipped guns being waved about inside the clubhouse, whilst being taken in and out of a gun rack. I have seen the damage that some of these 'empty' guns have done to floors, walls and ceilings of clubhouses. Guns have also been known to have been taken from shooting grounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbietherimmer Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Same old keyboard warriors hanging the bloke without having a clue of what happened. I often stop for a drink /bite to eat on the way home from shooting, are you suggesting I am irresponsible drunken Doc, maybe you should contact the GMC and have my licence to practice removed while you are at it makes me wonder if these people actually own a gun, if they do I suspect they rarely take it out of the safe. But bet they tell all there mates, well if they have any, what Rambo's they are theres a few whiter than white know it alls on here that's for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 I recently went into Sainsburys with the foreend of my O/U in my pocket. Remember that sketch from Blackadder "is this a canoe in my pocket or am I glad....... I did get a few odd looks, I thought taking the barrels or the stock in would cause a riot. It does pay to remember that there are plenty of thieves still about, despite the drop in crime stats. [ Or that is what you told the girl on the checkout !!!!! I am not commenting further, on the grounds I may incriminate myself ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rst1990 Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 So do houses, so what do you do? Carry all your worldly goods around with you all the time and get mugged. So what happens if someone nicks your rucksack or the gun falls out of it in the middle of a supermarket. There are so many scenarios of what/could happen. It's bad luck for the holder, nothing more or less. Yes houses do get broken into, that's why you have a gun safe??? There are loads of scenarios of what could happen, but why risk it? Bad luck for the holder? Luck should play no part in securing a firearm. (You do know these are very very dangerous in the wrong hands ie a theiving scumbag? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mick.j Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Just wondered if anyone on here uses any extra security devices, while leaving there gun in a vehicle ie - Gun safe, padlock and chain/wire etc. Being in a van (any van) you can quite easily secure a gun to the inside which would make it very difficult to take on an impulse theft. Unless the full details are known you cannot really say/judge for sure what happened - Was he targeted, was it an opportunist theft, Do they go to the same pub on the same day each week/month after a shoot??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 I don't think its the owners fault, I live in a small rural shooting community, so take my gun in with me. I'd be twitchy about leaving it in my car outside a pub I don't know, but more twitchy about taking a gun INTO a pub I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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