viking Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Just bought a shotgun off a lad on gun trader, he's took it to his RFD today, Iv informed my RFD to expect it, now Iv just been called by the lad I bought it from saying I need to send my license to him so he can add it to it before his RFD can send it to mine. *** is going on there then. Why have I not heard about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Oh no you don't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 ive not either, sounds BS to me... you cant send your license to people like that... no way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Absolute rubbish! Your RFD will enter the details on your licence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted February 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Welll Iv just spoken to my RFD and he's confirmed it. Said it came into affect 8 month ago. I just can't see the reason why. And what a pain. It just seems all wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Funny that it has taken 8 months for someone to raise the question! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Absolutely not . The RFD will address any issues signing it onto your certificate . Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwizard Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Its like sending your credit card to someone ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Complete rubbish, he takes it to his RFD who enters it onto his books and ships it to your RFD who enters it onto his books and writes it onto your SGC when you collect it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted February 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 My RFD said it came into affect 8 month ago but know body was told. I was shocked when I rang them up and they confirmed it, shocked. Complete rubbish, he takes it to his RFD who enters it onto his books and ships it to your RFD who enters it onto his books and writes it onto your SGC when you collect it. It used to be. But seems like not anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 (edited) No it's not, I've just had a rifle shipped to me and sent a section 1 shotgun to someone else, there have not been any changes to the way the system works. Edited February 24, 2015 by phaedra1106 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted February 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 It's riduculars really. I can't see any reason for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 what a cock up that is,sales are going to go down unless you can travel to where the gun is, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyxologos Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 It sounds a bit suspicious to me. Then again, I only have experience buying directly from RFD, so I would not know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holly Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 i would ring your firearms officer at west yorks police to get this confirmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted February 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Well it has been changed at biggin hill saddlery and gun room. And swillington shooting supplies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktattoo Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 How can you legally be responsible for a weapon on your ticket when you have not seen it, and is not in your procession ?. I have heard about this madness before but would be something I wouldn't want to get involved in. Nothing wrong in the old system where the seller gets payment the takes it to his Rfd, that Rfd arranges to have the weapon transported to the purchasers rfd. The purchasers Rfd then add it to the purchasers ticket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted February 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 i would ring your firearms officer at west yorks police to get this confirmed Going to do tomorrow. Closed now. But I can't see my RFD being wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted February 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 And how many certs are going to get lost in the post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbiter Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 if this came in to effect 8 months ago,surely we would have heard/read about it,load of tosh if you ask me,i had my renewal interview yesterday and asked my FLO if there were any changes made lately to variations timescales,as I might be putting one in,and he said one week timescale if not sooner,but nothing else has changed where anything else is concerned,so go ahead as normal,unless this new thing hasn't reached Northumbria yet,maybe david from basc can shed some light.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 (edited) If you buy from Holts that's how it works. When i asked about it i was told that is who it was always meant to be done. A mate sent his off it was sent back but because their was no one about to sign for it the post man left a not for in to be picked up at the office, the post office then gave it to someone else! Edited February 24, 2015 by bluesj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carman06 Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 The method mentioned above is correct and written into H.O. Guidance. My local RFD has been doing it this way for ages. The RFD is only to act as a transport conduit. The transfer is between the seller and buyer. You send certificate to seller. He annotated sale onto it and sends it back. He then sends shotgun via RFD to RFD. You then take your returned and completed certificate to RFD to collect shotgun. If RFD puts it on their books they become liable for claims against sale of goods act. This way they are just a courrier if you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBLATCH Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 The method mentioned above is correct and written into H.O. Guidance. My local RFD has been doing it this way for ages. The RFD is only to act as a transport conduit. The transfer is between the seller and buyer. You send certificate to seller. He annotated sale onto it and sends it back. He then sends shotgun via RFD to RFD. You then take your returned and completed certificate to RFD to collect shotgun. If RFD puts it on their books they become liable for claims against sale of goods act. This way they are just a courrier if you like. everytime ive done this my rfd had put it on my cert as transfered,, ive also had guns put on my cert by the local police having taken possesion of a deceased freinds weapons , as transfered,i would have thought that covers the burdon. the only thing i am aware of that has changed regarding rfd's are the way with which the records are to be kept Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 (edited) Oddly 5 yrs ago I had to send my licence to Avalon guns,they added the new gun to licence,this was then sent back and the gun sent to my local RFD,where I just presented my licence to collect it.Why I have no idea,it may of been to save me paying at this end I haven't got a sco by do. I thought you just pay the RFD at this end to do the paperwork. Edited February 24, 2015 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 The method mentioned above is correct and written into H.O. Guidance. My local RFD has been doing it this way for ages. The RFD is only to act as a transport conduit. The transfer is between the seller and buyer. You send certificate to seller. He annotated sale onto it and sends it back. He then sends shotgun via RFD to RFD. You then take your returned and completed certificate to RFD to collect shotgun. If RFD puts it on their books they become liable for claims against sale of goods act. This way they are just a courrier if you like. Indeed. In fact this is as it should have been done for years, it's just that many RFDs have been circumventing the requirement. To all those who are rubbishing this I would suggest you read page 3 of your firearms certificate item 3, which clearly states taht this is the requirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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