Dorset Sabs...situation awarness fail

[Guest rimotu66]

 

The video not only shows the result,its also got the perfect angle too.

For some reason the footage stops and restarts at 00.07 ,the 2 women stood next to each look to me like theyre getting ready for something ?

The women hit even glances in the direction of the incoming horse 2-3 seconds before impact at 00.13 where it appears the left arm of the woman on the right throws out , possibly knocking her friend into the horse.

I think they set it up and it went wrong,with the unfortunate lady getting more than she bargained for.

 

Agreed, if you look under the horses legs just prior to the contact you can see poor old Nids (what sort of left wing tree hugging name is that anyway?) legs step backwards.

 

She should not of been there in the first place along with her stinking unwashed dole scrounging scum friends.

[Rewulf]

Googling about ,there are plenty of sites calling for Mark Doggrells head,the nid appreciation society and so on.

I found one that has published the names addresses , phone numbers and emails of everyone involved in the hunt.

Others that claim the ambulance was prevented from attending the wounded nid.

Never really thought about hunt sabs before, and Im not really a fox hunting fan (by dogs) but these sabs are a pretty despicable bunch,I dont think any ends are too far for them,including deliberately causing accidents to themselves and others.

[tx4cabbie]

I'm not really pro or anti hunting foxes with dogs, on the one hand it supports a lot of jobs, and helps control the overflowing population of charlie, on the other, 40 dogs against a fox seems a little unpleasant, surely a bullet is quicker and more humane - but it's none of my business... I don't own land upon which the hunts wish to ride, so it's nothing to do with me. You should be able to do whatever you want on your private property, so long as it doesn't affect others going about their lawful business. If I'm cutting brush in my garden and you hop the fence and get hit by my machete, it is YOUR decision to trespass that caused the problem. They shouldn't have been there. I'm pretty sure the Cps would have nicked the bloke if they thought he'd hit the girl deliberately, it was an unfortunate accident, both sides need to be more careful.

 

In 8 years driving a London cab, I've bounced several people off the front, no harm done, but 2.5 tons of cab on a wet road will not stop in 15 feet when a drunken twit steps off the curb without looking - can't fight the laws of physics. He was pelting along at a fair clip, but she did seem to move back at the last minute, and if the man has to decide between hitting a car, a gatepost, or going for the gap,it's a nobrainer.

[loriusgarrulus]

The video also didn't show the road before the gate. That could have been full of SABS as well, which would add to the riders haste to get through.

[Rewulf]

 

In 8 years driving a London cab, I've bounced several people off the front, no harm done, but 2.5 tons of cab on a wet road will not stop in 15 feet when a drunken twit steps off the curb without looking - can't fight the laws of physics. He was pelting along at a fair clip, but she did seem to move back at the last minute, and if the man has to decide between hitting a car, a gatepost, or going for the gap,it's a nobrainer.

In my limited experience of horse riding, when a horse is moving at a brisk pace like that,its not really possible to turn it at the last moment.

Plus, besides jumping over certain obstacles ,a horse simply wont ride into objects,even people.

Back in the days of cavalry warfare,a horse had to be trained to ride a man down deliberately.

[harpoonlouis]

This has been on my mind all day, daughter is a Quorn subscriber so I film about a dozen meets a year.

 

I have to say that I see quite a few near misses every season but it is more often than not the venerable QH supporters that nearly get ploughed under. With an average age of about 75 plus and a lifelong disregard for their own personal safety they wander about the field in a blissful world of their own and always feel the need to be as close as possible to the action, bless em.

 

When we get visits from the yobbo brigade it is obvious that some of them really don't see the danger they put themselves in when they to get up close to horses in the field and seem to think that provoking any incident can be spun to their benefit, very irritating bunch they are but Hey Ho!

 

"a horse simply wont ride into objects,even people" old wives tail that! Get between a horse and it's escape route and it will flatten you! Got the bruises.

Edited March 12, 2015 by harpoonlouis

[spanj]

nasty accident,must say though the horse was motoring through a gate with car/people clearly there...perhaps reckless..

the point is that the people shouldnt have been there. There is never any action taken against the sabs for trespass as far as I know. You can see, hear and feel the horses presence...... get out of the way

[Richie10]

There is alot of people questioning whether fox hunting is right or wrong, most have formed opinions from no experience from what I can see on here. However fox hunting is banned and these guys are drag scent hunting.

 

So people out doing a lawful pursuit are still bugged by these idiots who are just class warriors. As I said they will soon start on something else if they can't annoy riders any longer.

[spanj]

I'm not really pro or anti hunting foxes with dogs, on the one hand it supports a lot of jobs, and helps control the overflowing population of charlie, on the other, 40 dogs against a fox seems a little unpleasant, surely a bullet is quicker and more humane - but it's none of my business... I don't own land upon which the hunts wish to ride, so it's nothing to do with me. You should be able to do whatever you want on your private property, so long as it doesn't affect others going about their lawful business. If I'm cutting brush in my garden and you hop the fence and get hit by my machete, it is YOUR decision to trespass that caused the problem. They shouldn't have been there. I'm pretty sure the Cps would have nicked the bloke if they thought he'd hit the girl deliberately, it was an unfortunate accident, both sides need to be more careful.

 

In 8 years driving a London cab, I've bounced several people off the front, no harm done, but 2.5 tons of cab on a wet road will not stop in 15 feet when a drunken twit steps off the curb without looking - can't fight the laws of physics. He was pelting along at a fair clip, but she did seem to move back at the last minute, and if the man has to decide between hitting a car, a gatepost, or going for the gap,it's a nobrainer.

It is your business if you are a fieldsportsman. The SABSand antis dont draw any distinction between fox hunting, rough shooting or pigeon shooting. It is incumbent on us all to stand together as divided we will certainly fall

[Paul223]

It is your business if you are a fieldsportsman. The SABSand antis dont draw any distinction between fox hunting, rough shooting or pigeon shooting. It is incumbent on us all to stand together as divided we will certainly fall

So so true!

[TIGHTCHOKE]

There is alot of people questioning whether fox hunting is right or wrong, most have formed opinions from no experience from what I can see on here. However fox hunting is banned and these guys are drag scent hunting.

 

So people out doing a lawful pursuit are still bugged by these idiots who are just class warriors. As I said they will soon start on something else if they can't annoy riders any longer.

 

That just about sums it up!

[Scully]

I don't care about fox hunting one way or the other, but the way I see it is this. Hunting with hounds is now illegal but drag hunting is not. If the police have reason to believe a hunt is hunting illegally then it is their responsibility to police it, not the general public. On the other hand, if members of the general public want to monitor said hunts then that is entirely up to them, so long as they do it within the confines of the law, and that includes trespass laws. If they are willing to place themselves in harms way for the sake of the fox then they should be prepared to face the consequences, so long as those consequences aren't brought about by illegal acts.

I find it ironic that the ones claiming matters of wrong doing are the only ones who feel it necessary to hide their identities. Perhaps hunt members should start wearing snoods also. Just a thought.

[timmytree]

It does look like a set up on behalf of the sabs, the video evidence shows little other than the actual incident so the only people who know what really happened are the ones that were present at the time. Presumably the CPS will have taken statements from everyone and allowed an element of "stories" from both sides and probably some collusion.

The protester, Nid, what a stupid name! She was in the wrong place at the wrong time trying to prevent a legitimate pastime, she wasn't the only one but she was the only one injured.

I hope she makes a full recovery but I also hope that it's possible to get some kind of prosecution/injunction against her and a few of her cronies.

This incident is a timely reminder that the sabs and the Green party want to see an end to all hunting, shooting and fishing as stated in the Green party manifesto so it's even more important that we all stick together and support each other, but be seen to comply with the law. Any wrong doing by shooters, hunters or fisherman, dog men etc will be turned against us eventually.

[Guest rimotu66]

Is there a petition anywhere to stop the CPS re-opening this 'case'? How do we fight back (legally and non physical of course) at this breed of scum?

[grrclark]

I don't care about fox hunting one way or the other, but the way I see it is this. Hunting with hounds is now illegal but drag hunting is not. If the police have reason to believe a hunt is hunting illegally then it is their responsibility to police it, not the general public. On the other hand, if members of the general public want to monitor said hunts then that is entirely up to them, so long as they do it within the confines of the law, and that includes trespass laws. If they are willing to place themselves in harms way for the sake of the fox then they should be prepared to face the consequences, so long as those consequences aren't brought about by illegal acts.

I find it ironic that the ones claiming matters of wrong doing are the only ones who feel it necessary to hide their identities. Perhaps hunt members should start wearing snoods also. Just a thought.

 

A good and well reasoned post Scully.

 

The SABS are entitled to protest and we should respect that, but they should be respectful of both the law and other people when exercising their rights.

 

My contention is not with the protest or even the motivation behind the protest, it is the SABS flagrant abuse of the law and utter ignorance and contempt shown towards other people who don't subscribe to their ideology that winds me up.

[Scully]

 

My contention is not with the protest or even the motivation behind the protest, it is the SABS flagrant abuse of the law and utter ignorance and contempt shown towards other people who don't subscribe to their ideology that winds me up.

Couldn't have put it better myself. This is a constant annoyance of mine. Really riles me.

[955i]

 

the utter ignorance and contempt shown towards other people who don't subscribe to their ideology that winds me up.

You obviously haven't read most of the posts in this thread then

[grrclark]

You obviously haven't read most of the posts in this thread then

 

I measure all ideological zealots by the same measure.

 

The majority of posts in this thread just show contempt for the behaviour of SABS in general, I have no problem with that.

[harpoonlouis]

I think the QH raised enough money in their Boxing Day collection for the Air Ambulance Service to pay for her medivac..

[Liamey]

The decision resulted in a 12,000-signature petition and the CPS is now reviewing the case under the Victims’ Right to Review Scheme.

The injured woman, named only as Nid, said: ‘I’m a victim of crime and feel absolutely abandoned by a system that’s supposed to protect me.

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‘As I lay in hospital the only thing on my mind was “have they got this on video?” because I wanted to ensure it was looked at properly.

‘If you ride at speed through a narrow gap where there are clearly people standing, there must be a risk of hitting them.’

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//]]>She was left unconscious with a collapsed lung (Picture: SWNS)

The clash came during a meeting of the Blackmore and Sparkford Vale Hunt in Sherborne, Dorset last August.

Nid was taken to Yeovil District Hospital where she stayed for two weeks and the huntsman was arrested on suspicion of causing grievous bodily harm.

The CPS decided in January not to bring the case to court, saying there was ‘insufficient evidence that the incident could have been foreseen’.

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A hunt protester treated by paramedics in the aftermath of the incident (Picture: SWNS)

The master of the Blackmore and Sparkford Vale Hunt, Rupert Nuttall, said: ‘We apologise that an awful accident happened but the due process of the law has been gone through.

‘Mark is innocent, as found by the Crown Prosecution Service.’

The CPS said: ‘We are in communication with the alleged victim and will be in contact with her when we have made a decision.’

 

Taken from the Metro .

 

 

I think 'nids' comment about hoping it was all captured on video says it all.

Cow gets in the way of a running horse. I know the Green Party were trying to give animals equal human status but this is crazy. Move along nothing to see here. I will reiterate, I hope the horse was ok.

[secretagentmole]

This has been on my mind all day, daughter is a Quorn subscriber so I film about a dozen meets a year.

 

I have to say that I see quite a few near misses every season but it is more often than not the venerable QH supporters that nearly get ploughed under. With an average age of about 75 plus and a lifelong disregard for their own personal safety they wander about the field in a blissful world of their own and always feel the need to be as close as possible to the action, bless em.

 

When we get visits from the yobbo brigade it is obvious that some of them really don't see the danger they put themselves in when they to get up close to horses in the field and seem to think that provoking any incident can be spun to their benefit, very irritating bunch they are but Hey Ho!

 

"a horse simply wont ride into objects,even people" old wives tail that! Get between a horse and it's escape route and it will flatten you! Got the bruises.

Can't see the sport in hunting mushrooms personally!

[lister22]

the slowmo is edited so you do not see the other nutter push her into the horses path

[Muddy Funker]

So the moral of the story from what I see is don't get run over by a horse, looks like it hurts.

[norfolk dumpling]

Whilst we don't have the full scene it appears the vehicle with the dashcam may have been influencing the situation and the huntsman took the route through the gateway to get away from sabs. He has no wing mirrors and thus if contact with sab did not include hitting his legs he may not have noticed accident. He would be coming through or at least to the gate at an angle and may not have seen both smellies. A good 'brief' would convince police and jury this was possibly an accident. Looks to me like a good result.

[Guest cookoff013]

is the horse ok?