malkiserow Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 What is all that about.?.... Take a bunch of celebs and put them in places way out of their comfort zones and expect some heroes and lots of shrieks ....... Maybe good for armchair adventurers? Why not challenge Bear to do the unexpected nd face his fears? Ray Mears seemed far more popular a few years back but he has gone quiet and Bear Gyrls is in vogue right now. Do you watch it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southeastpete Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I tried to watch it but it's pants! Whiny celebs crying because they have to swim, or ride a horse. Take 2 hours!!! to light a fire etc etc. bunch of planks been given an amazing opportunity tht they don't deserve. Only because yet are alreay rich enough to do it themselves. I preferred his island program, but Ray Mears is way better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJW Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I tried to watch it but it's pants! Whiny celebs crying because they have to swim, or ride a horse. Take 2 hours!!! to light a fire etc etc. bunch of planks been given an amazing opportunity tht they don't deserve. Only because yet are alreay rich enough to do it themselves. I preferred his island program, but Ray Mears is way better. I've said it before on here and I'll say it again (Re Ray Mears), I'm suspicious of anyone who goes into a survival scenario and comes out fatter than when they went in... I prefer Bear Grylls but agree it's a shame such a quality opportunity has been waisted on celebs who are only doing it for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) This is just a show. A kind of world in a showcase. It's on the box now and they are sitting out on this mud bank with the rain thrashing it down. Not my idea of fun having the rain run out of your boot lace holes. Ray mears is in a different league. Ps If Ray comes out fatter than he went in then he's yer man to find the food and come out with a smile on yer face. Anyone got a pork pie going begging? Edited March 13, 2015 by fortune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) I like it, I see nothing wrong with some so called celebrities crying and having a bad time. Or maybe I have a Mike Tindall man crush. Edited March 13, 2015 by rimfire4969 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) All done with smoke and mirrors and mucho spondulikos..a close friend is a sound technician and the meals are flown in each day..the urine was Perrier laced with food colouring and theres a 5 star hotel 20 minutes flight away by chopper. The film crew numbers about 50. You didn't get that from me though.! I cant believe fellow countrymen are so gullible Edited March 13, 2015 by Fisherman Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curly87 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I've said it before on here and I'll say it again (Re Ray Mears), I'm suspicious of anyone who goes into a survival scenario and comes out fatter than when they went in... I prefer Bear Grylls but agree it's a shame such a quality opportunity has been waisted on celebs who are only doing it for the money. The thing is Ray Mears never goes into a survival situation, rather he has vast amount of knowledge and studies how to live off the land, looks at tribes that still are living in that hunter and gathering lifestyle and so on. His programmes reflect that. Old Bear Gyrlls has no knowledge on how to really survive off the land, rather makes hyped up tacky tv shows about jumping into flooded crayons, chewing into live salmon and trying mount wild horses. Or at least that's all I've seen him do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 All done with smoke and mirrors and mucho spondulikos..a close friend is a sound technician and the meals are flown in each day..the urine was Perrier laced with food colouring and theres a 5 star hotel 20 minutes flight away by chopper. The film crew numbers about 50. You didn't get that from me though.! I cant believe fellow countrymen are so gullible is there anything you dont know about ? The thing is Ray Mears never goes into a survival situation, rather he has vast amount of knowledge and studies how to live off the land, looks at tribes that still are living in that hunter and gathering lifestyle and so on. His programmes reflect that. Old Bear Gyrlls has no knowledge on how to really survive off the land, rather makes hyped up tacky tv shows about jumping into flooded crayons, chewing into live salmon and trying mount wild horses. Or at least that's all I've seen him do! yeah you have to watch those crayons, they can be a bit of a handful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) is there anything you dont know about ? yeah you have to watch those crayons, they can be a bit of a handful No not much...the benefits of paying attention at school and not dicking about. Although its not what you know its who you know that matters. Even Ray Mears is a Fake..just has really good researchers that's all. Edited March 13, 2015 by Fisherman Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curly87 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 is there anything you dont know about ? yeah you have to watch those crayons, they can be a bit of a handful Haha a mixture of having a bottle of wine, auto correct and spending too much time with my 2yo daughter today! But yes, especially watch the red ones, they are the worst to remove from newly painted walls! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted March 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 No not much...the benefits of paying attention at school and not dicking about. Although its not what you know its who you know that matters. Even Ray Mears is a Fake..just has really good researchers that's all. is there anything you dont know about ? yeah you have to watch those crayons, they can be a bit of a handful He does not know Colin Lad changed race Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Haha a mixture of having a bottle of wine, auto correct and spending too much time with my 2yo daughter today! But yes, especially watch the red ones, they are the worst to remove from newly painted walls! Rubbing alcohol gets it off... can be drunk also diluted with Irn bru He does not know Colin Lad changed race I know he had been circumcised is that the same. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmydean Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 It just a way of making a living and a few quid. In the 1930's everyone had to manage in very difficult situations and yet here we have a few ***** making a show of themselves for money. **** Prenoke is the real Bear Grylls. Who has a name like that, especially in the unmerciful SAS ? Tales of survival are inspiring, Bear Grylls lives in hotels and Ray Mears, as said above, is fatter coming out then going in. Unreality TV or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) It just a way of making a living and a few quid. In the 1930's everyone had to manage in very difficult situations and yet here we have a few ***** making a show of themselves for money. **** Prenoke is the real Bear Grylls. Who has a name like that, especially in the unmerciful SAS ? Tales of survival are inspiring, Bear Grylls lives in hotels and Ray Mears, as said above, is fatter coming out then going in. Unreality TV or what? Got it in one....give that man a prize. When Bear is jumping into a 80ft waterfall or abseiling a sheer drop of 200 feet, or without water at 120 degrees in the Mojave.. how do you think the film crew survive. ? Edited March 13, 2015 by Fisherman Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Must admit i canane be doing with bear and this thing has just been an ego trip making him out to be the big man. Made them drink thee owm **** (which i'm gutted it wasnae, but did think it was funny he collected it all of them) when they are in a rain forrest and been wading throu rivers all day and peeing down with rain all nite, wot possible reason would they need to drink there own pee. Just nonsense Evn when they lowered them down a vertical cliff face 2 at a time, would not be that easy for the 'celebs' as someone else is controlling ur speed, they would of learned more abseiling and easier to control Even some of the safety stuff look s nonesense, if ur truely in a survival situation u do not risk coming down fast rivers. Not quite the same but i done some walking out in NZ, we got heli'd in to a hut to go fishing, meant to be 4 days walk from the nearest track, coming in in the heli could see absolutely no sign of man. I went of for a hike myself while rest of the boys were still drunk early 1 morn, walked a bit further than i expected but was very concious if i slippped or sprained and ankle it was not good news, and the 'track' i was on was pretty much a game trail, quite a few times i veered of it onto a deer/pig trail as the track was not used. I had a PLB/EPIRB which gives u a piece of mind, but it really does focus ur mind when u are so remote and on ur own Always prefered Ray Mears, know who i would rather get marooned with, bear just seems to wot to grab headlines which is sadly wot tv companies want. I actually think a lot of wot bear shows u would be the wrong thing to do inan emergancy situation, i realiseits for the cameras but a lot of folk will believe it While it may be easy to critise both bear and the clebs u only have to look at wot happened with the french versuion/similar show where 2 heli's collided with each other and 10 folk sadly died Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Prawn Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 It always makes me laugh when people moan how they have set this situation up etc... Of course they have, it's a very expensive television programme so everyone needs to be at their best to get what they want. What's the alternative? Crashing an actual plane full of crew and get a few days of people sitting around eating whatever rations they got from the wreckage until rescue comes? There have been a few shows like alone in the wild and naked and marooned which had much less support but as a result the camera coverage and sound etc is not as good - a fine line has to be trodden making essentially entertainment or a documentary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJW Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 I know much of the TV series has to be set up, but Bear has climbed Everest, literally walking over his friends frozen dead bodies. He passed the Provisional Officers Course for the Royal Marines (at the age of 16), He's passed SAS selection and served in the SAS®.. He's tough and knows his stuff. It's just a shame he's become so commercialised. I have a lot of respect for him but know guys serving in the forces that hate him for making such a big deal and fortune out of what they all see as normal day to day stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Not my cup of tea really, but probably would have been at the age of 10 or so. The cynical adult sees it with different eyes, which is something i always had to bear in mind when my children were younger lest I spoil their entertainment. They stop believing in Santa soon enough without me spoiling things. My son and daughter still enjoy a WWF Royal Rumble, but they recognise it for what it is nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Funker Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) I know much of the TV series has to be set up, but Bear has climbed Everest, literally walking over his friends frozen dead bodies. He passed the Provisional Officers Course for the Royal Marines (at the age of 16), He's passed SAS selection and served in the SAS®.. He's tough and knows his stuff. It's just a shame he's become so commercialised. I have a lot of respect for him but know guys serving in the forces that hate him for making such a big deal and fortune out of what they all see as normal day to day stuff. You can't take that away from him, I know a couple of guys that had a crack at selection (regulars) both hard as nails, both failed. No matter what people think of him as a sell out ect I'm starting to warm to him. I think he's a great role model for kids wanting to get into the out doors and have an adventure and that can be nothing but good. I like him. Personally I'd rather watch ray as everything is that little bit more calm and relaxing, but both love the outdoors and want others to enjoy it and that is to be commended I think. Edit: Useless fact, in this programme his right hand man Scott is a cop and police conflict trainer back in reality. He normally works behind the scenes for bears programmes. All the stuff about being ex marines is true. He's actually a decent bloke. Edited March 14, 2015 by Muddy Funker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) I know much of the TV series has to be set up, but Bear has climbed Everest, literally walking over his friends frozen dead bodies. He passed the Provisional Officers Course for the Royal Marines (at the age of 16), He's passed SAS selection and served in the SAS®.. He's tough and knows his stuff. It's just a shame he's become so commercialised. I have a lot of respect for him but know guys serving in the forces that hate him for making such a big deal and fortune out of what they all see as normal day to day stuff. I have respect for the bloke, he has achieved a great deal and made a lot of money for himself and for various charities. Plus there is no doubting his bravery,however its a lot easier to achieve these things when you are the son of an aristocrat with an Eton education. His family have extensive links with various media channels. Im not sure about the officer training at 16,but his SAS career is limited to 21 regt which is a reserve or TA regt ,all his other army and navy ranks are honorary . He has been proved as a fake on many occasions with the survival stuff,but in his defence ,if you are making a TV program which is essentially to make money,then cutting a few corners to save money is not out of the question. Like Fisherman Mike said all these programs are smoke and mirrors,its just entertainment. And his real names Edward ,doesnt have quite the same impact as Bear does it ... Edited March 14, 2015 by Rewulf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJW Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) You still have to pass the same selection course for SAS R as the full time SAS selection course. It's by no means a regular TA unit. Tough as old boots. Fair point that his parents may have helped him launch his TV career. No idea. It's a shame he's doing all these plastic shows now rather than real survival stuff. Edited March 15, 2015 by OJW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 All done with smoke and mirrors and mucho spondulikos..a close friend is a sound technician and the meals are flown in each day..the urine was Perrier laced with food colouring and theres a 5 star hotel 20 minutes flight away by chopper. The film crew numbers about 50. You didn't get that from me though.! I cant believe fellow countrymen are so gullible Celeb survival on a budget then, I bet their world is more of a jungle than anything that Bear has had to endure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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