Fredwalton Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 If I had a budget of say 500 quid what shotgun would people recommend either new or second hand and over and under preferably multi choke. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Anyone that you like that fits. It's just a couple of tubes with a handle but it must fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Bettinsoli/Medalist/Lanber Maybe an early Miroku/Beretta Go and try as many as you can Wabbitbosher off here maybe able to help you out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 A Winchester 101 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mick.j Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 For £500 i would buy an old Miroku fixed choke. Failing that a Browning /Beretta fixed choke. If you are just starting on a limited budget, fixed choke would be the way to go as you would get a better brand without the chokes. These (chokes) cost money, so the cost of the 'actual gun' is less You don't say what your using it for but 1/4 - 3/4 would suit most uses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Multi choke Medalist-good guns and you wont lose much on it if you buy a decent one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Don't buy new, you will lose value the minute you leave the shop. Get a decent second-hand one. Some good suggestions already made. Just get one that fits you. As for multi-chokes - they have their use. I have both fixed and multi, but only use the fixed choke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny thomas Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 With the risk of being shot down you could get a new baikel for that money as for the don't buy new why not you won't be buying the kind of gun that would be an investment for that money if you're buying it to keep for your sport the newer the better . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1961 Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Lanba sporting lux multi choke steel proof 30inch barrels 3 inch magnum does it all love mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick 16 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 Agree with jonny thomas, try a Baikel,stocks a little short for some but a new multi choke sub 500 quid that will last a lifetime??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 This, then I don't have to: http://www.guntrader.co.uk/Guns-For-Sale/Winchester_Shotgun_101-XTR-Sporter_For-Sale_150408132746170 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muffin Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 Good choice Scully but its sold I do have to sell one of my 7000 field models Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 Good choice Scully but its sold That was quick. I just emailed the seller on Thursday, then I had two missed calls and an answer phone message from him on Friday, but I didn't get back to him. Knew it wouldn't hang about for long. I do have to sell one of my 7000 field models I know, you keep telling me. Put it up on here, it wont take long either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muffin Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 I will a mint unused Winchester 7000 field need to take some pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickyh Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 With the risk of being shot down you could get a new baikel for that money as for the don't buy new why not you won't be buying the kind of gun that would be an investment for that money if you're buying it to keep for your sport the newer the better . Fair comment but you are still loosing 20% the moment you buy new. That's a 1/5 of the price in VAT alone ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny thomas Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 Fair comment but you are still loosing 20% the moment you buy new. That's a 1/5 of the price in VAT alone ! Not realy the point I was making a new baikel would last longer than the trigger puller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 "Buy the one that fits" is the answer, but doesn't really help with what guns to look for or avoid. Personally, I wouldn't touch a Hatsan again. I know they have their loyal followers, but i've had 3 duff ones. I'll be looking for a 12 bore again soon, and will be after a lightly-used Beretta O/U or semi auto, preferably with multi chokes but that's not vital. Having said that, any decent quality Winchester, Miroku, Browning etc, might tickle my fancy just depends what's available when i'm shopping And the Baikals can be great guns to shoot and maintain, as has already been said. Fair comment but you are still loosing 20% the moment you buy new. That's a 1/5 of the price in VAT alone ! Not realy the point I was making a new baikel would last longer than the trigger puller To be fair, the 'loss' involved is only applicable if and when the buyer chooses to move the gun on. If you can afford new over s/h, why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rst1990 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 Fair comment but you are still loosing 20% the moment you buy new. That's a 1/5 of the price in VAT alone ! You loose in money when you trade it on but gain warrenty on anything that goes wrong, bit of a trade off really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 (edited) If you buy a new overpriced Silver pigeon, 725, or simular and sell in year one or two you will loose the same percentage as the cheaper guns 20 years ago there was a massive difference in gun quality between makes, now its just minor differences and a lot of advertising Woodwork on many sub £1000 guns is often much better than the starter guns of the big three makers and guarantees equal or better and going by posts on this forum often a lot quicker if they need a repair Edited April 12, 2015 by ChrisAsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wilksy Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 If I had a budget of say 500 quid what shotgun would people recommend either new or second hand and over and under preferably multi choke. Thanks There's a Bettinsoli diamond x in the trader section, I shoot one and I love it! I paid £695 for mine new, more than happy with it, this lads asking £500 for it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepThought Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 Everyone's going crazy for that Armsan A612. And you'd have £100 left for accessories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesP Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 My next door neighbour is on his second Armsan auto. The first one failed to recycle more than 50% of the time. It came back as "nothing wrong with it", still failed, got swapped for a new one, and that one failed to extract/load/eject 25% of the time last Saturday. Tomorrow it's time to test it again in the hope that it's one batch of cartridges. I will be filming the jams, if any, so that if the retailer releases film of the gun performing perfectly to my neighbour's mates like he did last time I can put video of the thing failing on YouTube. He has been using a variety of cartridges. I personally wouldn't touch one with a ten foot barge pole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungle The Bear Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) Tried an Armsan 612 on sat seriously impressed Edited April 14, 2015 by Bungle The Bear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungle The Bear Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 It never fails to amaze me how many people go on about gun fit - I wonder how many have ever had a gun properly fitted - I doubt there will be many! The vast majority of modern O/Us are ambidextrous with stock shape and lenghts to suit 95% of the shooting fraternity. I have shot for 40+ years with never having a gun fitted and would consider myself a pretty competent shot. I find when people are looking for a second hand gun they get carried away on the notion of fit, when the real priority should always be on condition. I have personally witnessed people wanting to buy guns when the barrels have been pitted, I have also witnessed guns loose on the face and being seriously considered for purchase, all because they have been fed the gun fit line over the condition, surely condition must be the priority as most guns can be made to fit if you really want it. That aside if the six numbers come up at the weekend I shall be travelling a few miles down the road to be measured up for my pair of McKay Browns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 You don't have to have a gun fitted - You buy one that fits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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