14Supersport04 Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 Hi guys, Just wondering what you think of the browning medalist as a cheap all-rounder. I am looking at two at the moment both around £500 one has 28" barrels and the other 30" both multi choke. Any advice and opinions would be great and any sugestions on which barrel lenght to choose would be greatly appreciated aswell. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningB525 Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 You can get them a lot cheaper than that. I have one with rough woodwork for sale for £250. They are not as good quality as real Brownings, but are a lot cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 (edited) That's a bit steep for one of those. I'd have said more £250 for a bit of a rough one, up to £400 for one in pretty good nick. I used to own one in 28" barrels. Never let me down at all. Ignore the snobs who tell you it's not a 'proper' Browning. EDIT : Perfect timing with B525's post regarding price ! Edited October 29, 2015 by robbiep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 A lad off here smiithy has one ( not been on for ages) Went to shoot one of them one make competitions with his, Told he couldn't enter as it wasn't a proper Browning. Nice enough guns but as said that's a bit steep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 For that money you are not to far away from a proper browning . Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 £500 want to be very good condition ok guns made by FIAS for BWM for the UK market. Find the 20s better than 12s which tend to need some balancing work. Some part still available viable BWM. If it fits and you like it but it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) For that money you are not to far away from a proper browning . Harnser +1 . I remember them coming out and i seem to recall £550 new ? say approx 25 years ago. Edited October 30, 2015 by sportsbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Before paying for a 12g Medalist inspect the ejectors very carefully for cracks - using a glass if necessary. Snapped ejectors are the only real weakness with them and fitting new ones isn't a simple plug and play exercise. I don't know what ejectors cost now but 15 years ago they were over £60 and had to be fitted and timed by a gunsmith. I've shot several and once owned an identical gun badged up as 'Rottweil'. They handle quite well and shoot straight although the triggers were always a bit draggy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MITCHF Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Had two, still got one, get the 30". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) Five hundred sounds a bit pricey to me. You could get a good 101 for that and probably sell it for as much if and when you decide to. Edited October 30, 2015 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Don't ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjh Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 nothing gets PW going like the perennial Browning Medalist question, personally I have used one thought they were great for the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpaulc Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Love my 20g medalist. - yup its not a browning', but its well built and geos bang twice. But if it's as 12g your looking for, the others are quite right I've seen a good few way cheaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 It's a rock solid gun. Shot one for a few years and was very reliable. Ignore the "it isn't a Browning" brigade, they are popular guns and always sell well hence they hold their value too. Had mine for about 5 years and got a little more than I'd paid for it. At that money you'd expect the gun to be exceptional condition. Id be looking at £400 for a good condition gun. Cos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Been waiting for over a year for spares ,Hence my advice . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Ok, I'll play. The ONLY reason I persist in labouring the point of the Medalists heritage is because I do not like seeing people being conned, and I'll keep labouring the point for as long as people call it a Browning and there are people out there parting with their hard earned in the belief they are buying into the Browning name. There are still RFD's advertising Medalists as Brownings. Whether this is through deliberate deceit in an attempt to make a sale or whether through ignorance, I have no idea, but there is no escaping the fact the Medalist is NOT a Browning. The cynic in me suspects the 'Browning' Medalist will command a higher resale value than the FIAS Medalist. DO NOT buy a Medalist in the belief you are buying a Browning; you aren't. It never has been a Browning. It is a FIAS Medalist; always was, and Browning have never had anything to do with the design, manufacture or sale of the gun whatsoever. Some people seem to regard this fact as a slur on the Medalist, but as far as I'm aware there is nothing wrong with the gun whatsoever. They are popular and well made. If you feel your Medalist has been devalued because of this fact then this is something you need to take up with the person who sold you it and advertised it as a Browning, and this was one of the factors which clinched the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Ok, I'll play. The ONLY reason I persist in labouring the point of the Medalists heritage is because I do not like seeing people being conned, and I'll keep labouring the point for as long as people call it a Browning and there are people out there parting with their hard earned in the belief they are buying into the Browning name. There are still RFD's advertising Medalists as Brownings. Whether this is through deliberate deceit in an attempt to make a sale or whether through ignorance, I have no idea, but there is no escaping the fact the Medalist is NOT a Browning. The cynic in me suspects the 'Browning' Medalist will command a higher resale value than the FIAS Medalist. DO NOT buy a Medalist in the belief you are buying a Browning; you aren't. It never has been a Browning. It is a FIAS Medalist; always was, and Browning have never had anything to do with the design, manufacture or sale of the gun whatsoever. Some people seem to regard this fact as a slur on the Medalist, but as far as I'm aware there is nothing wrong with the gun whatsoever. They are popular and well made. If you feel your Medalist has been devalued because of this fact then this is something you need to take up with the person who sold you it and advertised it as a Browning, and this was one of the factors which clinched the deal. It's a Browning. That is the name on it. There is no 'deliberate deceit' about it. You might as well insist that the Toyota Aygo and Peugeot 107 are both actually a Citroen C1, and anyone trying to sell them as anything other than a Citroen is a fraudster. Because, underneath, they are the same car. They've got the same running gear, same loom and electronics, but just rebadged, and are all built in the same factory, on the same production line. Obviously, such a 'fraudster' approach would be ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Read this It's a typical Italian frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 It's a Browning. That is the name on it. There is no 'deliberate deceit' about it. You might as well insist that the Toyota Aygo and Peugeot 107 are both actually a Citroen C1, and anyone trying to sell them as anything other than a Citroen is a fraudster. Because, underneath, they are the same car. They've got the same running gear, same loom and electronics, but just rebadged, and are all built in the same factory, on the same production line. Obviously, such a 'fraudster' approach would be ridiculous. Ok, show me a picture of a Medalist with the Browning name or logo stamped on it ( and not the box it came in; that's just marketing ) and I'll apologise and post a full retraction. Last time this topic was up for discussion someone tried to make a similar point with the VW and Skoda if I recall, as you are attempting to make with the Toyota, Peugeot and Citroen above. Similarities also apply to the Fiat 500 and Ford Ka. While many models of cars share the same chassis, running gear and even engines, the major difference here is that all relevant car manufacturers, including those you mention above, have invested large amounts of money into the design and manufacture of those models, which means they have quite rightly badged them as such, whereas Browning invested absolutely nothing into the design or manufacture of the Medalist. BWM, which were Brownings importers and distributors at the time, commissioned the Italian company FIAS to design and manufacture the Medalist. Browning played no part in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 What spares are you after Gunman?-when the cocking dog broke on mine last year I got a new one in less than 2 weeks-it's only a FIAS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjh Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 why is it called a Browning Medalist, surely Browning would bring a legal action for use of its name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) Because the very nice man at Browning asked the very nice man at Fias in Italy if he would make then a very nice gun that they could sell in England in a Browning box. Edited October 31, 2015 by sportsbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14Supersport04 Posted October 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Does anyone know the width of the rib? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Does anyone know the width of the rib? 8mm and as a Sporter, possibly untapered, but can't be definite about the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Sculls. In which case lots of Brownings are not Browning as they are made by Miroku! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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