Davyo Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Why do they threaten you with a £1000 or imprisonment if you refuse without reason,when did this become a police state? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Why do they threaten you with a £1000 or imprisonment if you refuse without reason,when did this become a police state? It's a public duty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted February 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Yes it states that,but does that mean that you have no right to refuse.It says you can ask to be excused,but mate says they will just give you another date & you can not be excused on a 2nd occasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 OH did this once; lost four days work for a pittance of recompense and didn't even see the inside a court room. I hope I'm never called as I really don't fancy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Probably because so many Herberts try to wriggle out of it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Probably because so many Herberts try to wriggle out of it! I'd be a Herbert I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 They will get you in the end! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted February 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Probably because so many Herberts try to wriggle out of it! Not a herbert im afraid,just dont understand why they threaten you in the manner they do.Could get my own back and just give a Not Guilty vote i suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Yes you are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted February 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 You ******* **** hole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 If they compensated folk properly for their lost earnings I doubt it would be an issue. No-one else in the court room will be getting buttons for turning up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 You ******* **** hole Noted, you don't want to do your duty and resort to this sort of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Noted, you don't want to do your duty and resort to this sort of thing. Also noted, you're trolling as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 If they compensated folk properly for their lost earnings I doubt it would be an issue. No-one else in the court room will be getting buttons for turning up. Most of the others will be well qualified to be there, not just a member of the public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlewis Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) I was called up and firm I work for got me released the 1st time the 2nd time they cancelled as a long cases were running and the 3rd time no getting out of it and sat on 2 cases in 2 weeks and released early as I knew a witness on the last case so told to go as I had been released Edited February 13, 2016 by johnlewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wascal Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 If you live in a democracy you have rights , you also have responsibilities . Jury service is one of them . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Most of the others will be well qualified to be there, not just a member of the public. They clearly think the Jury is qualified enough to act as such for a pittance. The rest of the court room staff wont be suffering a loss of income for turning up. It's clearly an annoyance because of the poor remuneration and something needs to be done unless you want a resentful Jury dishing out poor judgements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) If you wish to live in a democracy and have a justice system that is the envy of the free world then you should take your turn when called. Edited February 13, 2016 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Remember when i received a letter calling my wife up for duty service, i rang them and told them i was calling on behalf of her and she would not be attending, got quite a lecture of the person on the phone to say she had to attend as it was her duty to do so.. When i got a word in i told her she would have to go tell her herself and she would find her ashes spread in the garden of remembrance at the local crematorium and if they had checked there records they would have noticed that she had died 3 months earlier.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) If everyone who didn't feel like serving got out of it, who would be dispensing the justice? It is the country we live in. Enough people bleat about others coming to the country and not observing the law, but merrily say, if called, they might give a "not guilty" verdict. How would such people feel if a Police Force said they didn't like dealing with SGC applications, so they turned them all down. Hypocrisy of a high order. The amount for loss of earnings is pitched at a fairly low level, but it's the price of democracy. Hawkeye - from memory - they are drawn from the Register of Electors, so they would not have known. Sorry if it caused you distress - in an ideal world, it wouldn't have happened. Edited February 13, 2016 by Gordon R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Why can't people just do what's expected of them without moaning about it? My wife's done it twice. I've never been called, but if I do, I'll go. It's one of those things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Why can't people just do what's expected of them without moaning about it? My wife's done it twice. I've never been called, but if I do, I'll go. It's one of those things. Same for me OH twice me not yet, if it's that big a deal to do it then cough up the £1k and carry on with your life..... If you have a reasonable reason for not doing it then submit the reason and hope they agree...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Why can't people just do what's expected of them without moaning about it? My wife's done it twice. I've never been called, but if I do, I'll go. It's one of those things. ditto. My wife has actually been called up 3 times for it - though on one occasion she was told, after 2 short cases in the first week had been concluded, that her duty that time was completed. I'f I'm called up for jury service, I won't be complaining about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remmy1100 Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 I got called up and to be honest apart from the sitting around waiting to be picked for a jury and the pain in the **** constant ajournments found it a interesting experience,but i was also lucky as 12 got picked for murder trail expected to last 8 weeks ,thats a sentence on the old rear by any standards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston72 Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 must admit its a pittance paid to start with but apparently your time gets more expensive the longer you are there Loss of earnings and other expenses Length of jury service Time spent each day Maximum daily amount you can claim First 10 days 4 hours or under £32.47 First 10 days Over 4 hours £64.95 Day 11 to day 200 4 hours or under £64.95 Day 11 to day 200 Over 4 hours £129.91 After day 201 4 hours or under £114.03 After day 201 Over 4 hours £228.06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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