12gauge82 Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Exactly how an "out" leaflet should be worded. The majority of voters like simple dumbed down literature. I employ two "lads" (32 / 33 years old?) and anything with more than one syllable goes over their heads, seriously Schools have been sadly lacking for decades now. I'd say there was a far bigger problem in this country with rubbish employers, the UK is becoming a minimum wage zero contact 'slave' nation Sooner we're out the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Exactly how an "out" leaflet should be worded. The majority of voters like simple dumbed down literature. I employ two "lads" (32 / 33 years old?) and anything with more than one syllable goes over their heads, seriously Schools have been sadly lacking for decades now. Im 32... Whats a syllable?!?!?! Hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 I'd say there was a far bigger problem in this country with rubbish employers, the UK is becoming a minimum wage zero contact 'slave' nation Sooner we're out the better I would be only too happy for you to tell me how a person that's incapable of working all day, without being instructed every ten minutes, is worth even minimum wage. My day is spent going from one person to the next in answer to stupid questions. Jobs they've done over and over again but still unable to make a decision. On a round tilt 30' across does a quarter of an inch really matter ? The material will stretch more than 1" but still I get the same questions "is this OK, it's a quarter of an inch short". On truck tilt frame 20' long does it really matter if it's an eighth of an inch out of square ? The body's probably half an inch out of square for Gods sake !! And they're worth more than minimum wage?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 But to have a major impact it needs to be said in simple terms and single syllable words on the front page of the Sun. There's nothing out there that a lot of the voters will (can?) read. Well how about: Why is the price of VW Golf 1.2 TSI 3 door hatch in UK:- £17,600 whilst outside the EU it is: Australia: £12,300, USA: £12,900 and in Canada: £10,350 That might get their attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 That's exactly what will get their attention, simple things that affect them. And of course, the biggy ........... immigration !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 I would be only too happy for you to tell me how a person that's incapable of working all day, without being instructed every ten minutes, is worth even minimum wage. My day is spent going from one person to the next in answer to stupid questions. Jobs they've done over and over again but still unable to make a decision. On a round tilt 30' across does a quarter of an inch really matter ? The material will stretch more than 1" but still I get the same questions "is this OK, it's a quarter of an inch short". On truck tilt frame 20' long does it really matter if it's an eighth of an inch out of square ? The body's probably half an inch out of square for Gods sake !! And they're worth more than minimum wage?? I obviously can't comment on your indervidual employees but generally speaking there's an old saying that goes 'if you pay peanuts then you get monkey's' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) Well how about: Why is the price of VW Golf 1.2 TSI 3 door hatch in UK:- £17,600 whilst outside the EU it is: Australia: £12,300, USA: £12,900 and in Canada: £10,350 That might get their attention. Yes but a Range Rover is a massive amount cheaper in the US and that's made here. Its always been the same. It goes right back to the days of MGBs and E Types. I've never fully understood why Its a valid point though Edited April 11, 2016 by Vince Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Yes but a Range Rover is a massive amount cheaper in the US and that's made here. Its always been the same. It goes right back to the days of MGBs and E Types. I've never fully understood why Its a valid point though I'm guessing that's down to our vat rate being much higher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 I'm guessing that's down to our vat rate being much higher Yes but the Yanks impose heavy export duties on foreign made cars... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Yes but a Range Rover is a massive amount cheaper in the US and that's made here. Its always been the same. It goes right back to the days of MGBs and E Types. I've never fully understood why Its a valid point though. Its called protectionism. Within the EU there are all sorts of deals done to inflate prices of goods made within the EU. But outside they have to sell at whatever the market will support. If the UK leaves the EU it too will be able to benefit from cheaper cars and products made by EU countries. The UK would no longer be bound by the restrictive protectionist policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuji Shooter Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 I'm guessing that's down to our vat rate being much higher I'm guessing because we are too stupid and just pay it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 I'm guessing because we are too stupid and just pay it. Agreed a nation of sheeple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Well someone thinks I need another one because another was delivered today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Well someone thinks I need another one because another was delivered today.Get it back in the post to Mr Cameron hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 I obviously can't comment on your indervidual employees but generally speaking there's an old saying that goes 'if you pay peanuts then you get monkey's' Unfortunately there's no staff out there that do our job, we have tried others (shall we say better educated) and they're just a waste of space. Seems to be common sense and academia most certainly don't go hand in hand. I've tried the monkeys on caviare, they didn't like it All the "hands on" but sensible type of blokes have gone, or are too old now. Don't know what will happen in another ten years or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 They have spent 6years getting up peoples noses and being at odds with Europe . Now we are being pushed into voting IN . My gut instinct is to push back and hurt the Government for putting on this dumb pantomime right after a recession . Get rid of DC then Scotland probably . Could not see the point in that referendum either but hey ho if they want to give us a button to push ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 I have just come from a small dinner of senior city professionals, partners in city law firms and some more junior city lawyers. The city professionals favoured out. They were typically aged 50 or more. The lawyer partners wouldn't say (they will only say whatever the client wants). However they were predicting an out vote. They were mid 40 upwards. The junior lawyers favoured in. They were typically 30'ish or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 I have just come from a small dinner of senior city professionals, partners in city law firms and some more junior city lawyers. The city professionals favoured out. They were typically aged 50 or more. The lawyer partners wouldn't say (they will only say whatever the client wants). However they were predicting an out vote. They were mid 40 upwards. The junior lawyers favoured in. They were typically 30'ish or less. That seems to follow what the polls are saying. Older voters favour out whilst the younger generation favours staying in. The good news is that the older voters are far more likely to actually bother to vote, the younger ones much less so. Despite wanting out I was a little sceptical it would happen. However the tide seems to be turning in our favour and whilst I think it will be damn a close run thing, there`s a very real possibility that come June 24th we will be invoking article 52 and starting the process of leaving the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Very interesting AVB, I do hope the predictions come to fruition, it really is time to govern from within our own borders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Let's hope we take our country back and start making our own decisions that suit us not the rest of bloody Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjh Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 what sort of shambolic campaign is the leave / go crowd up to they cant even decide who is running the leave / go show, looks like Nigel has been snubbed UKIP look like an embarrassment are they potentially going to scupper the chances of leaving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) what sort of shambolic campaign is the leave / go crowd up to they cant even decide who is running the leave / go show, looks like Nigel has been snubbed UKIP look like an embarrassment are they potentially going to scupper the chances of leaving To be fair,it's the Electoral Commissions role to decide who will represent opposing views in a referendum. Farage and the GO mob were very gracious actually. Edited April 13, 2016 by felly100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 To be fair,it's the Elecoral Comissions role to decide who will represent opposing views in a referendum. Farage and the GO mob were very gracious actually. And who controls the Electoral Commission, who pulls the strings ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Well how about: Why is the price of VW Golf 1.2 TSI 3 door hatch in UK:- £17,600 whilst outside the EU it is: Australia: £12,300, USA: £12,900 and in Canada: £10,350 That might get their attention. I was interested in this and a quick search found quite a bit online. Apparently the US versions (and possibly the Canadian and Australian ones too) are assembled in Mexico, not Germany, and they have a lower basic spec. Plus the US market is massive compared to the UK so simple economies of scale play a part. Another big factor is that the US car market is very competitive with many people naturally gravitating towards home grown companies rather than foreign makes so price incentives are needed. I think in the end though, they will charge what they can get away with. Interestingly though, the UK has some of the lowest prices for used cars in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 what sort of shambolic campaign is the leave / go crowd up to they cant even decide who is running the leave / go show, looks like Nigel has been snubbed UKIP look like an embarrassment are they potentially going to scupper the chances of leaving As I read it Farage and his merry little band are now freelance and that could be a very interesting position for a maverick of his ilk to wage a very damaging attack from the sidelines unconstrained. I may be wrong but I think Nigel could be off the lead, time will tell, he has still got the biggest swinging whotsit in this contest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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