fortune Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 600yds with subs ..........................and a 6-8ft drop. Methinks you're 'aving a laugh. It's more than that at 250yds The drop at 600yds is closer to 75ft :lol: :lol: It may well be on the charts but all I can say is that I placed the very bottom of the cross hair in the tube about a foot (optically ) above the target frame and the bullets were hitting in the bull. this is not something that I had ever done before and it has no practical use at all but it did happen like that. It was just to see if the bullet out of a 22 lr could hit a target a 600 yard range and they did. Go set up a BIG target and try experimenting. It's fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 .308 Win drop at 600 = 8ft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 .308 Win drop at 600 = 8ft? 8-10 feet, yes, with a 200 yard zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 This lad can shoot and he couldn`t achieve consistent accuracy at 600 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 Drop is not the greatest factor in accurate long range shooting Commonly your looking at over 30 ft drop at 1000 yards with a centrefire but placing moa groups is possible better is needed to win at times I liked the video and think it answers a lot like the guys finding seem to get the bullet hit way quicker than the note of that gong ping traveling back agsin indicated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 .308 Win drop at 600 = 8ft? More like it Is that you Ken?? G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 (edited) 600yds with subs ..........................and a 6-8ft drop. Methinks you're 'aving a laugh. It's more than that at 250yds The drop at 600yds is closer to 75ft :lol: :lol: It may well be on the charts but all I can say is that I placed the very bottom of the cross hair in the tube about a foot (optically ) above the target frame and the bullets were hitting in the bull. this is not something that I had ever done before and it has no practical use at all but it did happen like that. It was just to see if the bullet out of a 22 lr could hit a target a 600 yard range and they did. Go set up a BIG target and try experimenting. It's fun Used to shoot at Tiddesley Wood Military ranges when the club had access to it many years ago, and we shot 7.62 at 300, 400 and 600 yards and I think there was a difference of 17MOA between 400 and 600yds so that alone is @ 4ft. (Don't quote me on that; it's been a long time since I shot fullbore over that distance) The trajectory of a .22rf subsonic bullet travelling at a MV @ 1050fps is more than rainbow-like......... it's unbelievable. I have no doubt you can shoot .22subs over the distance, but I doubt you could hold a three foot grouping with them. The so-called world record was using a 1913 supermatch and Tenex ammo. G Edited May 9, 2016 by Graham M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 Why not get out and give it a go? seems a lot of thoughts being spoken rather than hard data from Experiance There is no forfeit for missing after all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 600yds on my permissions would be three fields away.......too bloody dangerous G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) More like it Is that you Ken? ? G Yes Mate, Thought it was you, how's it going? Pm me? Edited May 10, 2016 by old man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 600yds on my permissions would be three fields away.......too bloody dangerous G Many have different ground were it's perfectly safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 Many have different ground were it's perfectly safe I have no doubt that it is but the safety aspect wasn't what I was concerned with; it was the suggestion that a subsonic bullet travelling at 1050-1080fps only dropped ' 8ft over 600yds. Any road up, it's academic now as I think the subject has run its course. I did however see another video on youtube in which someone was shooting .22rf at 800yds...... .......any takers on that G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) Much like they are doing on that ploughed field using the dust to show hits. Years ago we used to shoot out onto a lake with various calibre pistols in the early morning when the water was like a mirror and that was very educational regarding elevation and drop.(and the time lapse) .22s have a very curved trajectory but 9mm and 38s just don't make it past a few hundred yards no matter what you do. Edited May 10, 2016 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 Interesting just shows don't get complacent the 22 will travel some it's still striking with significant energy in that last clip at 800 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 .......any takers on that We just need a 704yd Hare now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 We just need a 704yd Hare now... Not to mention the 3" at 500 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 I have no doubt that it is but the safety aspect wasn't what I was concerned with; it was the suggestion that a subsonic bullet travelling at 1050-1080fps only dropped ' 8ft over 600yds. Any road up, it's academic now as I think the subject has run its course. I did however see another video on youtube in which someone was shooting .22rf at 800yds...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeqcLgpp_vI&feature=youtu.be .......any takers on that G Listen to this if you compare the other video at 600 yards it seem to take longer for the bullet to reach the 600 yard, than this 800 yards video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 Don't be fooled by the ping it travels back slower than the bullet sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1066 Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 Listen to this if you compare the other video at 600 yards it seem to take longer for the bullet to reach the 600 yard, than this 800 yards video. That's because the camera is placed on the ground near the targets rather than the camera placed back with the shooter and a zoom lens used. (Looks to be about a 30 ft group at 800yds ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) We just need a 704yd Hare now... ooooh don't get me started. I well remember someone on this very site claiming 600yd Hares with a 22-250. Jeeze even with 1MOA that still equates to a 6 inch grouping.........and that's without the wind; or the ammo; or that bit of a tremble. G Edited May 10, 2016 by Graham M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 600 yards is 823.5" in my 16" cz, that's over 68 feet. Can I take that shot. Nope! Can't dial that far and I would need more than 40moa Rail on my current scope. I do shoot 200 meters, off sticks at a 6" target and can hit 100% of the time. All proven a number of times. I have and do head shot rabbits of sticks at 100 meters, alot of it is practice on the range with high numbers of ammo. One thing has changed now and I can't hit a barn door with the **** that Winchester are now churning out. New graphics on the box and its pants. The old light blue box with red x on it I was very comfortable with. Not this new poo. Back to eley now I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 I still have 500 Winchester that I bought a couple of years ago and they are brilliant through my Finnfire, but as it's sighted in at 60yds I tend to shoot within range. If the bunny is kind enough to stand up at 100yds then I aim at the top of its ears and normally hit somewhere @ the head/neck area but wouldn't guarantee it. Understand shooting off sticks as that's all I do now as I'm not going to lie down in the mud at my age any more. 100% hit rate on a 6" square at 200yds; yes easy if you have sighted the rifle in at that range, but bloody difficult if you are set up at 60yds Used to have an old BSA Martini action that was set up for rabbits at 100yds and shot off a bipod with match ammo'(used to get it free when I was a member of Kynoch) and it was so easy it was unbelievable. But it was pretty much useless at 50-60yds as you then had to guesstimate hold-under as I didn't have a mil dot scope in those days (don't know if they existed back then) as bullet trajectory with ammo' at 1050fps was @ 4.1 inches high. As for 600yds ....all I can find is a chart going up to 500yds using Hyper velocity stuff and the drop on that is @ 30ft at 500yds. So we are looking at another 30-40ft drop over then next 100yds as the bullet will be falling like a stone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Zeroed at 50 meters. I worked out a drop chart one day at the range and then started playing with an app on my tablet until i got everything lined up. that's how i can give the details on drop out to what every distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 ooooh don't get me started. I well remember someone on this very site claiming 600yd Hares with a 22-250. Jeeze even with 1MOA that still equates to a 6 inch grouping.........and that's without the wind; or the ammo; or that bit of a tremble. G Not that I think it's just to shoot a creature like a hare at 600 yards ( crows yeah) the above is very possible almost a sure thing for a good shot with good kit on the right day for a body hit Anyone who thinks that's just BS should actually attend a decent f- class shoot or one of our better club grounds It's got some factors but moa performance and less is regularly achieved at 1000 yards. Calling the correct dope at that range is very hard though groups are generally good. 600 is way easier to dope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 I used to shoot match rifle and I shot at 300,500 and 600yds with a 7.62 Swing match rifle. I then used to play with my .308 off a bipod, and at 600yds you were still talking about a 6 inch group even with the rifle shooting 1MOA. I know the rifle was shooting well into the 1MOA but even on a still day was never able to guarantee a 6 inch group at that distance........600yds is a bloody long way and the slightest breeze will act upon the bullet to either take it up and left or down and right. I know that they have an "Egg shoot" at Diggles ranges where they try to hit an egg at 600yds with only one shot, and now and then someone does manage it. But they are using top notch kit that have barrels capable of perhaps 1/4 MOA. How many vermin shooters have barrels of that quality or the ability to shoot them. 600yds easy to call.....................I have seen the wind flags blowing one way at one part of the range whilst others have been blowing the other way. On sunny days you can sometimes see the mirage running at the butts but the flags are going in the opposite direction at the firing point. 600yds easy........... G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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