Cottonseed Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Used to find Farge mildly amusing and someone who is vwilling to challenge the established party views. However the likes of him,Gove and johnson have really made me think about how we view people from all over the world. The event of last week crystalised it and I don't want to be part of the fear and hate stuff that Farage is promoting. I will not be radicalised. We have a democracy that has a bloody good record on the whole in having a balanced veiw on whats the best and most humain stance on forign affairs. I'm no left wing socialist but I find myself agreeing with people who i wouldn't normally give time for. Billy Bragg foe example. Some one shared his facebook page.. worth a read.like me you might not agree with it all but it made me think. Very naïve. Our democracy has been greatly reduced in recent years. For two reasons: the EU and the spell big business has cast on our own politicians who now support them slavishly. Our political Establishment has already arranged with the EU a massive future deregulation of the financial sector throughout Europe which has been cooked up by the City of London. It will fail if we opt out on Thursday and this is why Cameron and all the anti-democrats are ****ting themselves and stooping to low tactics like capitalising grossly on the murder of the Yorkshire MP. This new de-regulation will roll back all efforts to prevent another major financial crash while giving the hedgefund gamblers carte blanche to make fortunes. Also, France, Italy and Spain won't last much longer. Vote out and we will have some problems economically. Vote remain and the UK will be sucked in as the Eurozone goes down with huge bail in from UK savings to try to prevent it. Billy bloody Bragg's Gucci socialist Facebook Page isn't what you should be reading... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 In a nutshell. The title and thread is nothing other than trolling and baiting. It is a reoccuring theme with their posts.Quite why the OP gets a kick from it I don't understand, feeble minded is my suspicion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 .....anyway, the vote is tomorrow, may I please implore you all to vote, particularly if your vote is OUT. The polls have it very close so if you all vote then we should have it. THANK YOU! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 The EU resumes ascension talks with Turkey on 30 th June. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7b06dadc-323e-11e6-bda0-04585c31b153.html#axzz4CJRPmPnH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 I was chatting to a French bloke the other day and he reckons the feeling over there (amongst working people at least) is that they would like to leave. One person's opinion I know, but a similar thing happened when I was in Ireland recently, too, nobody I spoke with had a good work to say about the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Farage has made a brilliant speech earlier today, addressed every issue from every angle , including the photograph , replied by mentioning that the Remain campaign had used a very racial pg=hotograph which Nigel feels should have legal action taken , depicting a white skinhead abusing what appears to be a Muslim pensioner. Is this acceptable practice? I very much doubt it , but of course it was a Remain poster. Let us not forget Abdul Hamser and many others who have cost us a fortune to rid our shores of because of interference in British Law by Beaurocrats . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 I like what farage says generally, but being a politician especially with a background in banking makes me highly suspicious however if he ukip were elected and did what they promise I believe it would be fantastic for the country, I've voted ukip for years as I feel they should get a shot, if they mess it up I can always vote them back out, which is a lot more than I can do about the eu, junker and his other appointed, non elected, un removable by UK people pals. In a nutshell I prefer farage to the eu anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 I hate the idea of a German like Farage trying to impose his opinion of English People. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 I hate the idea of a German like Farage trying to impose his opinion of English People. Farage isn't German, his wife is. Maybe you're getting him mixed up with 'Lord' Sugar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) I hate the idea of a German like Farage trying to impose his opinion of English People. Unlike the horde of non-UK people imposing their rules, not just opinions, from the EU bureaucracy. I suppose it is okay for Barak Obama trying to impose his opinion. PS. Not just the English people - there are others in the UK. Edited June 22, 2016 by Gordon R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 I hate the idea of a German like Farage trying to impose his opinion of English People.I don't see what race would have to do with it anyway but as far as I know farage was born in the UK and I believe some of his ancestors fought defending the UK in ww2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 I like what farage says generally, but being a politician especially with a background in banking makes me highly suspicious however if he ukip were elected and did what they promise I believe it would be fantastic for the country, I've voted ukip for years as I feel they should get a shot, if they mess it up I can always vote them back out, which is a lot more than I can do about the eu, junker and his other appointed, non elected, un removable by UK people pals. In a nutshell I prefer farage to the eu anyway. Farage was a commodities broker and not a banker as far as I recall. He is from German ancestry and his wife is German. Have a search for his exposing the corruption of certain big players within the EU regarding Barrot (?) and Barroso (?). I may have spelled those latter two names wrong; it's been a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Farage was a commodities broker and not a banker as far as I recall. He is from German ancestry and his wife is German. Have a search for his exposing the corruption of certain big players within the EU regarding Barrot (?) and Barroso (?). I may have spelled those latter two names wrong; it's been a while. Cheers for that scully, just spent 10mins googling him and as usual your spot on, got to say I'm glad his party has been getting my vote as farage has now gone up in my estimation, his family emigrated here in the 19th century so that makes him about as German as I am Roman😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Cheers for that scully, just spent 10mins googling him and as usual your spot on, got to say I'm glad his party has been getting my vote as farage has now gone up in my estimation, his family emigrated here in the 19th century so that makes him about as German as I am Roman May be so, but the remainers won't let simple facts like that get in the way of a good slandering will they Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 His great gran parents were a mixture of German and French decent , they came to the UK as immagrants which in the points system he proposes would have been rejected. . He might claim to be British , but is not English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Farage was a commodities broker and not a banker as far as I recall. He is from German ancestry and his wife is German. Have a search for his exposing the corruption of certain big players within the EU regarding Barrot (?) and Barroso (?). I may have spelled those latter two names wrong; it's been a while. And commodity brokers are better than Bankers? I wouldn't trust either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 His great gran parents were a mixture of German and French decent , they came to the UK as immagrants which in the points system he proposes would have been rejected. . He might claim to be British , but is not English. If I said that about a muslim born here there'd be cries of "Racist" from the "in" brigade :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sian Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 His great gran parents were a mixture of German and French decent , they came to the UK as immagrants which in the points system he proposes would have been rejected. . He might claim to be British , but is not English. As a matter of interest how far back are we going to claim being English? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yod dropper Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) His great gran parents were a mixture of German and French decent , they came to the UK as immagrants which in the points system he proposes would have been rejected. . He might claim to be British , but is not English. Is that all eight of his great grandparents? Or just one? Or just two? Why would he be rejected under the points system? I thought that was to do with skills rather than ethnicity. Please don't tell me you've based your vote on yet more incorrect facts. Edited June 22, 2016 by yod dropper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 His great gran parents were a mixture of German and French decent , they came to the UK as immagrants which in the points system he proposes would have been rejected. . He might claim to be British , but is not English. Well I have French, Native American and Welsh ancestry, I am definitely ENGLISH, Nige will do for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sian Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Well I have French, Native American and Welsh ancestry, I am definitely ENGLISH, Nige will do for me! I'd like to do one of those global dna tests - some very interesting mixes of origin for some people who didn't expect to see what they got on a Facebook post I saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Polls are neck and neck now, just announced on BBC, so it must be true. So, if those handful of Out voters who say they can't be bothered to vote actually go and vote, then the out will win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 I think a lot of those who work at companies that have told them to vote in will vote out, and say they voted in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 I think a lot of those who work at companies that have told them to vote in will vote out, and say they voted in Hope your right 👍 Polls are neck and neck now, just announced on BBC, so it must be true. So, if those handful of Out voters who say they can't be bothered to vote actually go and vote, then the out will win! Hope so, problem is there's plenty who haven't made their mind up and poll doesn't include them, most will vote for status quo tipping it into remains favour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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