TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 Seems about time to me personally that the Beeb was given a short sharp injection of reality in a commercial world? Over paid in every way? Oh Yes, I quite agree. Do you remember when the BBC was seen as a paragon of good taste, fair reporting and dependable content? Those days are over! Also, too many idiots believing all this **** in the press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 More myths from.the BBC to scare the simpletons Into coughing up their stealth tax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveboy Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 1.Bloke knocks on door 2."I'm from TV Licensing can I have your name." 3."No.This is private property,Can you leave please 4.Close door. The people that get prosecuted are the ones that talk themselves into it. By the way I have a TV Licence (wifes idea) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 (edited) The TV detector van is just pulling outside a house. Just as the old lady is coming up the path .the guys says i have come to check your TV license .she says .hey i am on me way to the Bingo.just tap on the door and telly hubby .its behind the clock .ok he say .so of to the door he goes .knocks the old boy opens the door. What do you want to the guy. Oh Sir i have come to check your TV Liçense .and its behind the clock..wow say the old boy .thats some detector you have there .lol . Edited August 8, 2016 by johnphilip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddoakley Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 Been reading a fair bit lately about TV licence and how to not pay it. Never taken the time to look into it before although I have always begrudged paying for something I neither want nor need (and don't get started on the pedophiles etc that were protected!!) But with all that I have read lately it seems it really is as simple as telling them to go away. A little more research is needed into how much grief there could be but I don't think I will be paying for another licence. How many on here don't have one? What if any problems has it caused? Edd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningB525 Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 I don't have a licence. We don't have an aerial connected. I'll just make sure my wife uses torrents instead if I player after the 1st of September. We have not had the licence in over a year, we got one letter. We called them saying we don't have a TV then that was it. No further reminders or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 (edited) "we know you have a TV, we detected it !" "ah, the old trick, eat the TV ! " "its not a TV, its a toaster !" Edited August 8, 2016 by cookoff013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 A couple of points : "TV licencing get told when you buy a TV". True. It's actually specified in legislation, or was (no idea if it's been superseded or annulled) in the Broadcasting Act, I believe. Regarding the 'packet sniffing' technique for seeing if you were watching iplayer, etc. Technically it's completely feasible, and would work as a detection tool. However, I just can't see it happening in any real world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningB525 Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 A couple of points : "TV licencing get told when you buy a TV". True. It's actually specified in legislation, or was (no idea if it's been superseded or annulled) in the Broadcasting Act, I believe. Regarding the 'packet sniffing' technique for seeing if you were watching iplayer, etc. Technically it's completely feasible, and would work as a detection tool. However, I just can't see it happening in any real world. If I went to buy a tv from tesco etc with cash, I wouldn't be asked my address. TV licence detection is simple. They'll have a database of addresses and a database of addresses without licences. Send threatening letters to those who don't have one. Visit a few others. They could monitor I player by requesting addresses or licence reference numbers etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 Wifi packet sniffing to see if someone is using iPlayer is super simple to do, however to be able to use that as evidence in any prosecution is a nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningB525 Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 (edited) Wifi packet sniffing to see if someone is using iPlayer is super simple to do, however to be able to use that as evidence in any prosecution is a nonsense.They would have to prove it was you and not your neighbours using your wifi. Or you could use a cable. I may swap my kodi box to wired just in case. Edited August 8, 2016 by BrowningB525 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveboy Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 (edited) If I went to buy a tv from tesco etc with cash, I wouldn't be asked my address. TV licence detection is simple. They'll have a database of addresses and a database of addresses without licences. Send threatening letters to those who don't have one. Visit a few others. They could monitor I player by requesting addresses or licence reference numbers etc. Yes but who is watching it.You, your 9 year old (too young to prosecute)or your next door neighbor using your WiFi EDIT beat me too it. Edited August 8, 2016 by daveboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 Just use a Ethernet connection they can't pick up anything then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 Do you not need to enter your email to access iplayer? It's such a long time since I registered I can't remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 Do you not need to enter your email to access iplayer? It's such a long time since I registered I can't remember. Nope. I don`t believe you even have to register to use it. I can`t recall ever having done so. E-mail addresses are irrelevent anyway. It`s not like you have to give any significant proof to register a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest topshot_2k Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 Waste of time, whats stopping me downloading using wired connection to my own internal server and streaming from there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 Waste of time, whats stopping me downloading using wired connection to my own internal server and streaming from there? I`m curious if the supposed detection methods can deal with someone using a VPN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest topshot_2k Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 Plus theres nothing stopping someone from using 4G to download/stream without license. If they were really serious about stopping it they would make you login to player with license number and register devices to download onto etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 The previous analogue detectors were exaggerations, misinformation and lies, and I suspect this is too. http://www.bbctvlicence.com/Detector%20vans.htm The put these stories into the mainstream press for free publicity. I worked days, afters and night shifts for over twenty years out on patrol and never saw a single one. In fact in my whole life I have never seen one except on TV. But I came across loads of criminals who had convictions for no TV licence so perhaps the Beeb just send people round to those addresses with no TV licence and look for the signs of a TV flickering behind the curtains? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Mule Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 Point 1: the detector vans were actually possible. RF signals are two parts: a carrier and the signal. In your TV, to get the signal information, you need to create an 'anti-wave'' to wipe out the much greater / more powerful carrier signal, leaving only the info. The RF created by the carrier killer is detectable. It was that frequency, that could be picked up, thereby determining which station you were tuned into. Point 2: They don't need a van to get at your web browsing - this can all be done remotely, but,,, they will need your IP address, which will need to be supplied by your ISP. BT have taken the step to renew everyone's IP address every hour as a step towards stopping being forced to supply this info. Others don't, but that makes it even easier. If you want to stay anonymous look into using proxies or DNS servers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 If you want to stay anonymous,buy a bloody TV licence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 I worked days, afters and night shifts for over twenty years out on patrol and never saw a single one. In fact in my whole life I have never seen one except on TV. But I came across loads of criminals who had convictions for no TV licence so perhaps the Beeb just send people round to those addresses with no TV licence and look for the signs of a TV flickering behind the curtains? They either persuade people to let them into their houses or to admit they`ve been watching tv. Then if they don`t cough up the license fee they fine them. Failure to pay the fine is a criminal offense. Not buying a license is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 They either persuade people to let them into their houses or to admit they`ve been watching tv. Then if they don`t cough up the license fee they fine them. Failure to pay the fine is a criminal offense. Not buying a license is not. It used to be 6 months in prison for not paying the fine. Which was far more than they'd have got if they had burgled the old lady down the street or glassed somebody in the pub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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