lord_seagrave Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) Continuing the theme of silly questions: I have a raise patio area around which I would like to add a sturdy fence to prevent Little Lord Seagrave coming a cropper as he starts to mess about with a balance bike. The fence posts are nearly 3" thick. Can I buy an expansion bolt rawlplug sleeve thing to insert into the brick, but buy a much longer bolt to go through the fence post and still go deep enough into the sleeve? I reckon I need a washer to prevent wood damage on the head side, but do I need a washer on the brick side too the prevent the sleeve being pulled into the wood? Is there a ready-made version of this to do such a job? Or does anyone have any bright ideas as to how it could be done? The height of the brickwork is about 3' and so I am thinking I need two fastenings on each of the six posts (so that's 12 of these fasteners I need, just in case any has a 'trade' solution that can only be bought by the thousand). All help gratefully received. LS Edited November 19, 2016 by lord_seagrave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 Google Rawlbolts. I believe they will do just what you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 You will get masonry rawl bolts and so easy to use. Have a look on eBay for different sizes to suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisdom Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) When I did mine I just used a long woodscrews into a brown plug x 4 drIlled the post first to the diameter of the shank.Then drilled 3/4"deep into the post to the diameter of the head.Can't remember the length of the screws but they were long enough to go into the plug well so I would say around 4". The posts have never moved despite the gales battering the panels. Edited November 19, 2016 by wisdom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 U also get hammer fixings too, which are real easy to use. Just drill throu both post and wall and hammer the fixing in I take it the 'fence' is going to act as a banister/handrail? If u have not already bought the fence posts u could buy a heavy rail, say a 4x2 (often planed) which would also be strong enough and probably a cheaper option as long as ur fence is not solid and only a banister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Frame fixings are what you want they look like a 6 or 8 inch screw with a rawlplug attached but you hammer them in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tikkashot Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Thunder bolts , Drill hole through wooden post and into brickwork and tighten thunder bolts using socket wrench , very strong . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 (edited) Nothing wrong with plugs and screws 4" screws will do you and counter bore them in an inch Edited November 20, 2016 by team tractor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 When I did mine I just used a long woodscrews into a brown plug x 4 drIlled the post first to the diameter of the shank.Then drilled 3/4"deep into the post to the diameter of the head.Can't remember the length of the screws but they were long enough to go into the plug well so I would say around 4". The posts have never moved despite the gales battering the panels. This is how my 4" posts are held on, If done properly you should have no problems, mine are attached to a 6ft fence that gets hit by winds and never moved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 I would use frame fixings from screwfix or toolstation link http://www.screwfix.com/p/easyfix-frame-fixings-10-x-135mm-10-pack/15978?kpid=15978&cm_mmc=Google-_-Product%20Listing%20Ads-_-Sales%20Tracking-_-sales%20tracking%20url&gclid=COrRgYPEttACFQzhGwodXPQBGQ The plain smooth shank part of the screw is better than full screw cut for holding timber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose man Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Nothing wrong with plugs and screws 4" screws will do you and counter bore them in an inch +1 3 to a post .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seph234 Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 studding and resin anchor is what i would used. use a larger flat bit to drill the depth of the bolt/washer into the post so it sits nice and flush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 (edited) I would use frame fixings from screwfix or toolstation link http://www.screwfix.com/p/easyfix-frame-fixings-10-x-135mm-10-pack/15978?kpid=15978&cm_mmc=Google-_-Product%20Listing%20Ads-_-Sales%20Tracking-_-sales%20tracking%20url&gclid=COrRgYPEttACFQzhGwodXPQBGQ The plain smooth shank part of the screw is better than full screw cut for holding timber. The Screwfix site is not working at the moment but they do a full range of screws which have a hex head and matching plugs so that you can get enough depth and hold so that the post holds in place. these are made for the job so why modify something else to try to do the job such as counter boring the post. Edited November 20, 2016 by fortune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconBoy Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Thunder bolts , Drill hole through wooden post and into brickwork and tighten thunder bolts using socket wrench , very strong . +1 quick n easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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