Vince Green Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 Did anyone see it? pretty damning evidence of systematic recycling of tyres from abroad that are not safe. Many have accident damage, others are dangerously old. How long can it be before they ban this trade? Its certainly illegal in most other countries apparently so why are we getting all their old tyres? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 Cant understand why anyone would buy partworn.It's like when people want a 4x4 then worry about mpg/tax.I think its the same when people buy a used performance car and then go for the cheapest tyre possible.If you have to look at buying part worn then you've bought a car you cant aford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 2 things you don't skimp on with any vehicle, BRAKES AND TYRES! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 in 30 years ive never bought new tyres. even put 2nd hand on my 1000cc superbike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilts#Dave Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 in 30 years ive never bought new tyres. even put 2nd hand on my 1000cc superbike. A true enthusiast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningB525 Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 2 things you don't skimp on with any vehicle, BRAKES AND TYRES! Part worn branded tyres are still going to be better than new budgets. All tyres have a dating code on them so the age thing shouldn't be an issue as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 So to all the i would not have part worn tyres on my car. Do you when you buy a used car change all the tyres before you drive it away you don,t do you, so you do have part worn tyres you know nothing of the history of how the tyres have been treated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db135 Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 I've seen brand new tyres being sold as part worns as they were to old to sell as new looked at date code and they were nearly 17 year old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted November 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 There are a lot of fake branded tyres, the world is awash with fake Pirellis and Firestones. Its a very big problem around the world for the tyre manufactures. Since these tyres are imported from 'who knows where', what are the chances that a lot of the part worns are also fakes. They are imported by the container load as scrap so they are completely unchecked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted November 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) So to all the i would not have part worn tyres on my car. Do you when you buy a used car change all the tyres before you drive it away you don,t do you, so you do have part worn tyres you know nothing of the history of how the tyres have been treated. Well you know they haven't been in a major accident and they aren't three times the age of the car. Also if they have had a repair it was done to British standards. Edited November 22, 2016 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 What I would like to know is where does all that worn rubber go...into the atmosphere we breath, onto the land which we than farm and eat, into the animals that eat off the land and then we eat. Ohhh dear and we worry about carbon issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 Did anyone see it? pretty damning evidence of systematic recycling of tyres from abroad that are not safe. Many have accident damage, others are dangerously old. How long can it be before they ban this trade? Its certainly illegal in most other countries apparently so why are we getting all their old tyres? I thought all tyres have a date code. Cant understand why anyone would buy partworn.It's like when people want a 4x4 then worry about mpg/tax.I think its the same when people buy a used performance car and then go for the cheapest tyre possible.If you have to look at buying part worn then you've bought a car you cant aford It is purely down to cost, they see it as a saving and perhaps do not realise how dangerous it can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 I'm a bit of a stickler for tyres and it usually the 1st thing that gets changed. On our main car we buy new change every 3 yrs (usually have one full set of rubber changed in the last year of ownership).I cant remember a time when I've let rubber wear down to the wear indicator. I also unless tyres a new or new'sh replace in pairs keeping to the same brand and tread pattern all round. My second car is usually second hand (just changed recently) alloys wear unmarked so no signs of heavy kerbing) but the 2 front tyres wear near to the indicator.Car was booked in for full set of winter tyres on day of collection.Same as my last 2nd hand motor (Jimny) was driven straight from dealer to tyre centre for 5 A/T'S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 Cant understand why anyone would buy partworn.It's like when people want a 4x4 then worry about mpg/tax.I think its the same when people buy a used performance car and then go for the cheapest tyre possible.If you have to look at buying part worn then you've bought a car you cant aford +1 Why would you compromise on safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 Did anyone see it? pretty damning evidence of systematic recycling of tyres from abroad that are not safe. Many have accident damage, others are dangerously old. How long can it be before they ban this trade? Its certainly illegal in most other countries apparently so why are we getting all their old tyres? I second that unless my finances did not allow me to afford new ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uilleachan Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 If you know where the tyres have come from part worn isn't an issue, provided they have enough tread to be effective, and thats not merely legal but legal +++. My pal just sold his VW with two spare sets of part worn tyres, full set of serviceable gaslaved nordfrost and a full set of decent Perrelli's, it was the spare rubber that sealed the deal and enabled a quick sale. All the tyres had a know history, some of them came from me. The commercial resale of 2nd hand tyres is a different issue that I don't approve of, why would anyone risk a tyre with an unknown history? Personally I buy new tyres and ditch them when they become sub optimal, but then I can afford to run my car like that and I do so because I drive many a lang scots mile on questionable surfaces. If you have to run on 2nd hand part worn, you have to be able to trust the source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted November 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 I thought all tyres have a date code. It is purely down to cost, they see it as a saving and perhaps do not realise how dangerous it can be. In many parts of the world tyres cannot be older than six years old. Six years old is the theoretic max age limit for a tyre, after that the rubber starts hardening and as it progresses the tyres run hotter and hotter at speed. That's why they have a date code. Also the rubber becomes more brittle as it ages (think of an elastic band) and less able to withstand impacts such as potholes. They talked about introducing the six year rule here but it never happened. So we now get all the reject tyres sent here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 In many parts of the world tyres cannot be older than six years old. Six years old is the theoretic max age limit for a tyre, after that the rubber starts hardening and as it progresses the tyres run hotter and hotter at speed. That's why they have a date code. Also the rubber becomes more brittle as it ages (think of an elastic band) and less able to withstand impacts such as potholes. They talked about introducing the six year rule here but it never happened. So we now get all the reject tyres sent here I see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 Been having a little look at other countries, Sweden its mandatory to switch to Winter tyres form 01st December to 31st March where as Switzerland it not mandatory. However if there is an accident and your the only one not on Winter tyres you're more than likely to get the blame lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovercoupe Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 I thought the guy on the program was being a wuss when he put the tyre in the cage to seat the bead then when it came out and saw the damage I would not have even inflated it! I parked next to a guy at work I knew, a jag xkr and saw the rear had a huge bulge in the sidewall, went and told him and he said he knew and was going to keep driving it untill they wore down as they were expensive. Clown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_MSM Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 When I was last in for a set of tyres (1k+!!) a young lady came in asking for some advice on a puncture. I overhead the conversation, turns out the part worns she had just bought elsewhere were a mismatch - two were even run flat tyres. When she asked how much a budget set of new tyres was it came to about £30 more than the **** she had bought. The mind boggles sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 So to all the i would not have part worn tyres on my car. Do you when you buy a used car change all the tyres before you drive it away you don,t do you, so you do have part worn tyres you know nothing of the history of how the tyres have been treated. Well you know they haven't been in a major accident and they aren't three times the age of the car. Also if they have had a repair it was done to British standards. So you know the previous owners didn't fit part worns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted November 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) So you know the previous owners didn't fit part worns And your point is? ........... Is this thread about part worn tyres or whether or not I'm psychic? Actually, the car I am driving at the moment I did change the tyres about a week after I bought it and it was partly because of their age, but I fully intend to drive the car in excess of 140 mph so I didn't want old tyres on it.. Edited November 28, 2016 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasabi Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) So you know the previous owners didn't fit part worns Not really the point. Why would you decide to fit tyres to a vehicle which are a complete mystery to you? At the end of the day all the ABS or traction control in the world is useless if it's not working through some decent rubber. By all means fit part worn to your car but don't try to claim they are as good as new, genuine, premium tyres. Even budget tyres have to pass stringent standards. Edited December 2, 2016 by Wasabi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningB525 Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 Not really the point. Why would you decide to fit tyres to a vehicle which are a complete mystery to you? At the end of the day all the ABS or traction control in the world is useless if it's not working through some decent rubber. By all means fit part worn to your car but don't try to claim they are as good as new, genuine, premium tyres. Even budget tyres have to pass stringent standards. Part worn michelins are still michelins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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