20g OU not firing second barrel ?

[greenshank1]

Hi All

 

I have a little Breda 20g OU that my son uses and was using it the other day , and it is not firing the second barrel. Fires the first OK but not the second. Any ideas ? What this will be , and likely cost at gunsmith to repair and check over ?

 

Cheers

 

Greenshank

[Aled]

May be of interest. I had a similar problem with mine, when I first had it, I sent it to a gunsmith who told me I was not pushing the top lever far enough across when I was opening it.

Cheers

Aled

[ips]

Sounds like the inertia not operating. Put snap caps in fire first barrell then lightly tap the butt on the floor, you should hear a click as the inertia block thing activates second barrell. If you have to give it more than tap then it needs polishing up by a smith. Light loads can also have this effect as the recoil is insufficient to activate the inertia.

 

Ps

That is assuming it hasn't got mechanical trigger group like a krieghof. I am not familiar with the make so just guessing it is recoil operated

Edited January 4, 2017 by ips

[bakerboy]

Does it have a barrel selector?

If so swap barrels and see what happens.

It may as simple as a new firing pin required.

[greenshank1]

Thanks for replies guys.

Yes has barrel selector . Have alternated the barrel selector and it with fire top or bottom but not the second barrel.

 

Cheers

 

Greenshank

[Michael Scotland]

Try a heavy cartridge in it this can sumtime work as light ones don't kick enough to arm second barrel

[bakerboy]

Try a heavy cartridge in it this can sumtime work as light ones don't kick enough to arm second barrel

+1

[bluesj]

A good clean may help as old oil a grim can stop things moving as they should

[Highlandladdie]

Had a similar thing, took the stock off and gave the action a thorough clean and a very light oil. There was loads of swarf, I presume, from the inside surface of the stock. Once that was cleaned out it worked a treat after that.

[Smokersmith]

Had a similar thing, took the stock off and gave the action a thorough clean and a very light oil. There was loads of swarf, I presume, from the inside surface of the stock. Once that was cleaned out it worked a treat after that.

Do this.

[fortune]

I had the same with my 20g Beretta. Removed the action from the stock and washed the action out with petrol. There was a small amount of black that was cleaned out but nothing to mention. I lightly oiled it and reassembled all parts. This must have freed up the trigger group and it has worked well.

[Gunman]

How old and big is the lad ?sometimes if the gun is not held firmly or with a light weight user the recoil is not contained enough for want of a better description ,to operate the change over . Also check it is not going on to safe when fired a common but not always noticed problem .Is it a case of not releasing the trigger fully after the first shot ?

 

I ask this as these are common things tat if the gun had come into the workshop I would have checked .

[welshwarrior]

How old and big is the lad ?sometimes if the gun is not held firmly or with a light weight user the recoil is not contained enough for want of a better description ,to operate the change over . Also check it is not going on to safe when fired a common but not always noticed problem .Is it a case of not releasing the trigger fully after the first shot ?

 

I ask this as these are common things tat if the gun had come into the workshop I would have checked .

Exactly if he's not holding the firmly enough it can refuse to turn over to second barrel. Seen this so many times.

 

Also if the guns to long in the stock they tend not to fully release the trigger, again shows up on both barrels.

 

Have you shot the gun did it work for you.

Edited January 4, 2017 by welshwarrior

[greenshank1]

Thanks for all replays.

He is 14 and plays rugby so is big enough and I checked he was definitely releasing the trigger after first shot.

I fired it and it is not firing the second barrel and it isn't going to safe after the first shot.

 

Cheers

 

Greenshank

[ShootingEgg]

What size load? My mates 20 wont fire second barrel when his partner uses it with either 21 or 24 gram carts. 28 gram it works fine. I did the fire first barrel then hit the butt with palm of hand trick and it fired the second Barrel with 24g carts.. Id guess your getting similar issue

Edited January 5, 2017 by ShootingEgg

[stevieknuckles]

As has already been stated it will be the inertia action not working properly, my friends browning was doing exactly the same thing last week. I took the stock off, soaked the action in white spirit, then cleaned it his had rust and gunk in it ( I think he only cleans it once in a while ). When it was clean I then freed up the action with WD40, cleaned again then a light oil. I used a soft swede brush to clean the surfaces of the rust.

It works fine now, if you go on you tube there is plenty of videos showing the actions of o/u the inertias are forced back by the recoil from the first shot, any friction caused by rust, gunk, grease will slow these down and not allow the second shot to fire.

It will only take a couple of hours to do and save you some money .

[Gunman]

Check that the inertia block piston spring in the trigger has the correct weight ,if it is to strong then it will not fly if to weak it may not have sufficient force to engage the sears .