ehb102 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 CPSA have licence revocation insurance now. Not sure anyone else has that any more. I can't say I am bothered as I am not at personal risk of losing my licence, but they do seem to have got better regarding the insurance recently. Would like to hear from any recent claiments though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 I'd like to hear them shouting out loud for our sport and being proactive like BASC and the FITASC federation is in France for their sport. Instead the CPSA sit back take your money and register your score and work out your averages for a classification, publish the grounds and what's on as that's what the ground are paying them for advertising. When was the last time they actually helped someoneyou know of. Shame more grounds didn't just open the comps up and not bother with the CPSA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 So in summary they are a necessary evil as far the serious clay shooter in concerned ? Otherwise they are a load of *******? If they left this world what would the shooting community be left with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadog1408 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 If they left this world what would the shooting community be left with? Nature abhors a vacuum, something else would soon take its place, hopefully better. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Why not set up something 'unofficial' in competition. If it's any good the CPSA will eventually die off through lack of subs and the new organisation take over. It appears that no one has a good word to say about them, there is a massive body of clay target shooters but not many willing to try and organise an alternative. Just a thought (clay shooting isn't my bag but I can empathise with the frustration that an ineffectual organisation creates). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) If people look at the statistics, they will see more members, more members shooting competitions, and more people entering majors.Hardly "on the ropes". Edited March 29, 2017 by Smokersmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buze Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 I've been shooting for a little while now, and *ought* to register with CPSA, but I've resisted so far, because of all the stories I've read so far on them... So, perhaps I'm a minority, but it *does* have an impact as they haven't got my money so far ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 I've been shooting for a little while now, and *ought* to register with CPSA, but I've resisted so far, because of all the stories I've read so far on them... So, perhaps I'm a minority, but it *does* have an impact as they haven't got my money so far ;-) So, who are you insured with then? That's a very good reason for joining the CPSA, or indeed BASC or a number of other organisations . I suppose if you're just a "fun" shooter who doesn't want to shoot many major events alongside Digweed and other top shots, that's fine, you don't need everything else that goes with CPSA membership, but if you're serious about achieving anything in the sport, you have to be a member, it's that simple, no "ifs" or "buts". The usual waffle comes out from time to time about setting up a breakaway organisation, but what most people don't realise is that it's been tried before, it went nowhere, and the Guy that set it up subsequently ended up as the CEO of the CPSA, how about that for a classic "Poacher turned Gamekeeper"..? The sport of clay shooting is currently undergoing a bit of a boom, with loads of new people coming into the sport, all very happy to pay over £40 for a 100 bird registered Sporting, because they don't know any better. I don't think that this revival has anything to do with the CPSA, but they should be reaping the benefits of all these new members, all eager to get classified and then shoot the English or British Opens, but they never seem to get it quite right, with a seemingly never ending "churn" of resignations, new Directors and expensive litigation with former members with more chips on their shoulders than Harry Ramsden...? All in all, a bit like the current state of BASC..? It's interesting to compare the CPSA with their counterpart in France, the FFBT. They both have a similar membership of around 25,000, but, whilst the CPSA have a current staff list of 15 paid employees, (excluding Directors), the FFBT has, (so I'm told), a total of only 4 full time paid employees. An interesting comparison perhaps, but it has to be said the CPSA has a much better website, with far more info on the sport than the FFBT website. Club membership is not compulsory in the UK, as it is in France, you can't enter a French "major" without being a club member and a FFBT member. The CPSA are far from perfect, but I do feel that however hard they tried, even offering free lottery tickets and beer at all shoots, there are still plenty who would moan, it's human nature I suppose..? Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 So, who are you insured with then? That's a very good reason for joining the CPSA, or indeed BASC or a number of other organisations . I suppose if you're just a "fun" shooter who doesn't want to shoot many major events alongside Digweed and other top shots, that's fine, you don't need everything else that goes with CPSA membership, but if you're serious about achieving anything in the sport, you have to be a member, it's that simple, no "ifs" or "buts". The usual waffle comes out from time to time about setting up a breakaway organisation, but what most people don't realise is that it's been tried before, it went nowhere, and the Guy that set it up subsequently ended up as the CEO of the CPSA, how about that for a classic "Poacher turned Gamekeeper"..? The sport of clay shooting is currently undergoing a bit of a boom, with loads of new people coming into the sport, all very happy to pay over £40 for a 100 bird registered Sporting, because they don't know any better. I don't think that this revival has anything to do with the CPSA, but they should be reaping the benefits of all these new members, all eager to get classified and then shoot the English or British Opens, but they never seem to get it quite right, with a seemingly never ending "churn" of resignations, new Directors and expensive litigation with former members with more chips on their shoulders than Harry Ramsden...? All in all, a bit like the current state of BASC..? It's interesting to compare the CPSA with their counterpart in France, the FFBT. They both have a similar membership of around 25,000, but, whilst the CPSA have a current staff list of 15 paid employees, (excluding Directors), the FFBT has, (so I'm told), a total of only 4 full time paid employees. An interesting comparison perhaps, but it has to be said the CPSA has a much better website, with far more info on the sport than the FFBT website. Club membership is not compulsory in the UK, as it is in France, you can't enter a French "major" without being a club member and a FFBT member. The CPSA are far from perfect, but I do feel that however hard they tried, even offering free lottery tickets and beer at all shoots, there are still plenty who would moan, it's human nature I suppose..? Cat. I will not get into which association is the better, for my sins I belong to CPSA, BASC and APSI. For me the most important thing you have said Cat is :- "So, who are you insured with then?" I am seeing more and more shooters that do not belong to any of the Associations (not the most important thing) but when asked, have no insurance. I understand that I am digressing, but it is a very important point you have made Catamong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningB525 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 I will not get into which association is the better, for my sins I belong to CPSA, BASC and APSI. For me the most important thing you have said Cat is :- "So, who are you insured with then?" I am seeing more and more shooters that do not belong to any of the Associations (not the most important thing) but when asked, have no insurance. I understand that I am digressing, but it is a very important point you have made Catamong If you (HEAVEN FORBID!) needed to make a claim, which policy would you claim off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 If you (HEAVEN FORBID!) needed to make a claim, which policy would you claim off? My own private policy, which covers me for the coaching work I undertake. The CPSA insurance covers Coaching as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 If you want insurance, then the best answer is to go and see an insurance broker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Cat you've hit the nail on the head. Everyone should be covered by some insurance and if you wish to shoot competitively then the CPSA is the ONLY way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Ta, i guess you get a Scottish classification? Sorry, I missed your reply. You get a classification that carries across all the home organisations, the SCTA use the CPSA criteria so the cut offs are the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 If you want insurance, then the best answer is to go and see an insurance broker. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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