Any money in Cartridges?

[Whitebridges]

Someone thinks there is !

 

Just Cartridges are on the move to bigger premises:

 

http://www.justcartridges.com/were-moving

 

There's a "Clearance Sale" that you might be interested in.

 

All clay loads are £4.50 per box of 25 (£180 per 1000) and game loads are £5.00 per box of 25 (£200 per 1000).

 

http://www.justcartridges.com/clearance/

[oldypigeonpopper]

Someone thinks there is !

 

Just Cartridges are on the move to bigger premises:

 

http://www.justcartridges.com/were-moving

 

There's a "Clearance Sale" that you might be interested in.

 

All clay loads are £4.50 per box of 25 (£180 per 1000) and game loads are £5.00 per box of 25 (£200 per 1000).

 

http://www.justcartridges.com/clearance/

hello, they always looked pretty cramped in the warehouse, i wonder how many cartridges will be stocked ??. i see it is on another single track road between stanton and witney can i presume for getting planning for cartridge storage safety.? just a few extra miles for me so i shall pop over when they move, must be worth stocking up with the sale prices.

Edited May 3, 2017 by oldypigeonpopper

[Rimfireboy]

Ive never found any money in cartridges.

[figgy]

JC must be making money as it's sometimes the only way to get certain cartridges and you tend to round upto a thousand for delivery cost.

 

Anyone who lives out in the sticks using a few thou a year it makes sense to buy from them.

[BrowningB525]

If jc just priced their cartridges at the going rate (or slightly less) they'd make an absolute killing. Their cart prices are crazy (ignoring the discounted prices now or bin ends).

 

I am happy with the delivery charge, but won't pay over the odds for the carts. That's why I've not used them.

[Whitebridges]

The new 25,000 square feet warehouse suggests they are doing something right.

 

I'm impressed they can expand like this given the apparent low margins on cartridges, frequently reported on here.

 

They must sell massive volume. Buy in bulk and sell at over the usual RFD prices. I think their delivery charges are reasonable.

 

BTW I buy 90% of my cartridges from a local gunsmith.

[rovercoupe]

They must get a good deal to have 2875 alphamax in ssg 32g, the most pointless load ever!

[Wb123]

I aleays buy my cartridges from places i want to keep in buisness for when i need an rfd nearby...

[Wilts#Dave]

The new 25,000 square feet warehouse suggests they are doing something right.

 

I'm impressed they can expand like this given the apparent low margins on cartridges, frequently reported on here.

 

They must sell massive volume. Buy in bulk and sell at over the usual RFD prices. I think their delivery charges are reasonable.

 

BTW I buy 90% of my cartridges from a local gunsmith.

I will generally support my local shops too, if the price is right of course. Just cartridges, considering that's all they sell I've always thought rather expensive to be honest and certainly not 'the place to go' , for me anyway.....apart from their bin ends etc that can often be at a decent price.

I phoned them some time ago wanting a couple of certain 20bore brands/loads they advertised, neither of which were even in stock! No big deal for your average gunshop but for a company that only sells cartridges I was surprised at.

Must be doing something right though, proof of the pudding in the eating as they say

Edited May 4, 2017 by Wilts#Dave

[rbrowning2]

The name may be just cartridges but they sell other items like gloves and magnetic sticks. I would guess the extra space may be to see an expansion into other non cartridge items, time will tell.

[wymberley]

I aleays buy my cartridges from places i want to keep in buisness for when i need an rfd nearby...

 

The name may be just cartridges but they sell other items like gloves and magnetic sticks. I would guess the extra space may be to see an expansion into other non cartridge items, time will tell.

[Guest cookoff013]

when one of my local shops charge £400 for imperial game 28 gram load in a #6, you wonder if there is any money in cartridges, and what is confusing when just carts have the £100 pound cheaper.

 

when i pointed out it would be cheaper, to hire someone else, pay there pension and force them to make the powder, wad, hull, primer, from sctatch let alone for them to mine and purify the lead, and make the shot.

£100 profit on the already profitable shells. the break even point for my reloader was like 20 boxes of shells, or some crazy small ammount.

[Whitebridges]

when one of my local shops charge £400 for imperial game 28 gram load in a #6, you wonder if there is any money in cartridges, and what is confusing when just carts have the £100 pound cheaper.

 

when i pointed out it would be cheaper, to hire someone else, pay there pension and force them to make the powder, wad, hull, primer, from sctatch let alone for them to mine and purify the lead, and make the shot.

£100 profit on the already profitable shells. the break even point for my reloader was like 20 boxes of shells, or some crazy small ammount.

 

That's exorbitant ! The last lot i bought were £276 a thou. I hope RFD's are selling old stock at old prices. If £400 a thou is the new price that's a helluva price increase.

 

Try the Gamebore Supergame Hi-Bird 65mm case 28g can pick these up locally at £65 a slab - £260 a thou. I wouldn't be surprised if gamebore phase this out due to the arrival of their new Regal game.

[wymberley]

Flippin' 'eck! I'm beginning to think that 2000 of those Pro Game was one of my better moves.

[figgy]

Sir why are you only shooting low birds, gun because I stand a better chance of hitting them have you seen the price of carts.

 

£400.00 a thousand is want a loader throwing in untill I shot them all.

[propercartridges]

Someone thinks there is !

 

Just Cartridges are on the move to bigger premises:

 

http://www.justcartridges.com/were-moving

 

There's a "Clearance Sale" that you might be interested in.

 

All clay loads are £4.50 per box of 25 (£180 per 1000) and game loads are £5.00 per box of 25 (£200 per 1000).

 

http://www.justcartridges.com/clearance/

of course theres money in cartridges if you get the end user what he is calling bin ends and clearence i am just about selling for that as standard production carts the only thing i would say is his rates is going to be big so he may need more dosh for the rates on the size of the building then there is the legals such as seperation distances inside its no good having a massive building if you cannot use all of it my downfall was the posting of them but thats over now we pay all post on a order of 3k or more so retail price next day on your door any mixture of 3k plus we can put up to 12k on the same pallet as long as every thing is ok on the legal side cheers george 07714 323 909

[oldypigeonpopper]

of course theres money in cartridges if you get the end user what he is calling bin ends and clearence i am just about selling for that as standard production carts the only thing i would say is his rates is going to be big so he may need more dosh for the rates on the size of the building then there is the legals such as seperation distances inside its no good having a massive building if you cannot use all of it my downfall was the posting of them but thats over now we pay all post on a order of 3k or more so retail price next day on your door any mixture of 3k plus we can put up to 12k on the same pallet as long as every thing is ok on the legal side cheers george 07714 323 909

hello george, they state on holding a million cartridges in the warehouse now, looking at the size of the new building will take 10 mil plus which in theory would have the purchase power to keep prices stable but i cannot see a price reduction, you can get a good deal from Lovels near witney who are just as local, some shooters do not have a RFD near and some charge top money which i presume have high over heads, i bought some of JCs bin ends at £4 a box, had 250 left, i would prefere to use one decent cartridge like 65/70mm 28/30 g fibre 6 shot instead of buying different makes on best prices at the time, i was hoping you were coming down oxford way last year , if you decide this year i am sure other members local would be interested, and others i know not on PW, I see your updating your web site maybe you would notify when done ?

Edited May 6, 2017 by oldypigeonpopper

[panoma1]

of course theres money in cartridges if you get the end user what he is calling bin ends and clearence i am just about selling for that as standard production carts the only thing i would say is his rates is going to be big so he may need more dosh for the rates on the size of the building then there is the legals such as seperation distances inside its no good having a massive building if you cannot use all of it my downfall was the posting of them but thats over now we pay all post on a order of 3k or more so retail price next day on your door any mixture of 3k plus we can put up to 12k on the same pallet as long as every thing is ok on the legal side cheers george 07714 323 909

 

But you do not make 65mm, fibre wad, Game cartridges do you George?

[oldypigeonpopper]

 

But you do not make 65mm, fibre wad, Game cartridges do you George?

hello, shows new cartridges coming on his web site so maybe there will be those you wish to buy, i would consider a game cartridge of 65mm 30g 6 shot like the eley grand prix 1.1/16oz i use to buy or the impax 1 oz now 28g. now it seems plus 30g is the norm.

[propercartridges]

well not to go of this subject but i do make a 67mm which even by proof house rules and regs and a good few convesations 67 mm are ok to use in 65mm any body differ cheers george

[wymberley]

well not to go of this subject but i do make a 67mm which even by proof house rules and regs and a good few convesations 67 mm are ok to use in 65mm any body differ cheers george

I don't.

BUT

As I don't know - honestly don't know - but would like to. I f you have an old (100 years) London SbS which is in superb original condition which you'd like to stay that way for another 100 and which has tight proper 2&1/2" chambers, are you subjecting it to a higher pressure than necessary with the slightly longer case creeping into the forcing cone than would be the case for a true 2&1/2" cartridge and with no benefit gained from what comes out of the barrel? I appreciate that 2&1/2" is less than 65mm, but, conversely, 67mm is longer than 2&1/2". I've never been given the answer, but have always wondered why, if there is no problem, true 2&1/2" cartridges are still made when simply making 67mm would save a lot of tooling costs, etc, etc.

[Guest cookoff013]

Min chamber length for 65mm is 65mm+2mm =67mm.

Cip regs.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Min chamber length for 65mm is 65mm+2mm =67mm.

Cip regs.

 

Sorry to be pedantic but 67mm is actually the MAXIMUM for a 2 1/2" chamber.

[oldypigeonpopper]

I don't.

BUT

As I don't know - honestly don't know - but would like to. I f you have an old (100 years) London SbS which is in superb original condition which you'd like to stay that way for another 100 and which has tight proper 2&1/2" chambers, are you subjecting it to a higher pressure than necessary with the slightly longer case creeping into the forcing cone than would be the case for a true 2&1/2" cartridge and with no benefit gained from what comes out of the barrel? I appreciate that 2&1/2" is less than 65mm, but, conversely, 67mm is longer than 2&1/2". I've never been given the answer, but have always wondered why, if there is no problem, true 2&1/2" cartridges are still made when simply making 67mm would save a lot of tooling costs, etc, etc.

hello, the only answer is to measure the internal chamber, a 2/1/2 inch is slightly under 64mm but there must be an allowance for the crimp.my first old english 12 bore was 2.5 inch then the eley grand prix was the cartridge used

[oldypigeonpopper]

 

Sorry to be pedantic but 67mm is actually the MAXIMUM for a 2 1/2" chamber.

hello, in that case georges 67mm cartridge would be a further 2mm. 69mm