Wooder Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 Came off the M25 today to go up the M1 , couldn't believe my eyes to the my right there was a field of rape 3 ft tall and in full flower. whats that all about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 Came off the M25 today to go up the M1 , couldn't believe my eyes to the my right there was a field of rape 3 ft tall and in full flower. whats that all about? You might well be right Wooder , but are you sure the flower is not a weed that grow amongst the rape ? , we have got some fodder rape that is well in flower that is grown for a cover crop, and a field of Mustard that is in full Yellow flower also grown as a cover crop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 It will be Charlock, a weed that grows amongst the growing rape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 It will be Charlock, a weed that grows amongst the growing rape. Completely agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnie Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 i may also be mustard sown to combat insects, they go for the roots it is chopped up while in f;ower and ploughed in right away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 Completely agree. Yes, I'd say it was Charlock. Got a field near here that does look like flowering rape but on close inspection it is Charlock. OB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 I would say that if it is the whole field it is more likely to be a green crop of mustard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 Must have drove past half a dozen big clumps of mustard in flower this week. Generally it's put in as a cover crop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 Must have drove past half a dozen big clumps of mustard in flower this week. Generally it's put in as a cover crop. apart from being used as a cover crop..................farmers are obliged to put a certain % of their acreage down as a soil improver....thats what it is done for around here.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 apart from being used as a cover crop..................farmers are obliged to put a certain % of their acreage down as a soil improver....thats what it is done for around here.......... I'll ask the farmer ditchy. Who knows it might be for both reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 I'll ask the farmer ditchy. Who knows it might be for both reasons. i think it is an EU thing...................in the old days 60's and 70's they used to use Lupins as a soil improver then be ploughed in...the lupin is a legume and you mixed in with the seed a "nitrifying bacteria...which would attatch itself to the developing roots and produce nitrogen...........thus with the bulk ...stems etc producing humas and the roots producing nitrogen.....hence...soil improver.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) I would say that if it is the whole field it is more likely to be a green crop of mustard. Yes, you're dead right, it's a break crop of Mustard and those fields are part of my permission. I'm looking forward to seeing what quantity of Game birds will be in there when we have our first shoot up there later this month. The actual area of Mustard being grown is pretty big, probably double what you can actually see from the motorway, so we'll see what's in there..? Cat. Edited October 7, 2017 by Catamong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 i think it is an EU thing...................in the old days 60's and 70's they used to use Lupins as a soil improver then be ploughed in...the lupin is a legume and you mixed in with the seed a "nitrifying bacteria...which would attatch itself to the developing roots and produce nitrogen...........thus with the bulk ...stems etc producing humas and the roots producing nitrogen.....hence...soil improver.. I'm not so sure about an EU thing brother. You'll remember the clover lays we used used to grow? That was the old fashioned way. Then they'd put the cows or sheep on it and let them eat and **** away until it was gone or the pigeons beat them to it. Trouble is these days farms are mostly arable, little livestock in Norfolk compared to how it used to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnie Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 As mentioned green manure is one option also for the control of NEMATODES, farmer who's land I shoot over uses it on potato land for control of eel worm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooder Posted October 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 Yes, you're dead right, it's a break crop of Mustard and those fields are part of my permission. I'm looking forward to seeing what quantity of Game birds will be in there when we have our first shoot up there later this month. The actual area of Mustard being grown is pretty big, probably double what you can actually see from the motorway, so we'll see what's in there..? Cat. Small world!!!!!! looked like rape to me from a distance. my wife says my head is always in the fields and not on my driving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 I'm not so sure about an EU thing brother. You'll remember the clover lays we used used to grow? That was the old fashioned way. Then they'd put the cows or sheep on it and let them eat and **** away until it was gone or the pigeons beat them to it. Trouble is these days farms are mostly arable, little livestock in Norfolk compared to how it used to be. think its an EU directive... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 two of my perms last 2 years have been told they had to put mustard in,,apparently they have no choice but to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShropshireSam Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Quite a few brassica cover crops now grown to control soil borne pest and pathogens. The main one being potato eelworm or potato cyst nematode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 An update on this crop, it's brimming with Pheasants, but it's so dense and around 5 feet tall in parts, that' it's so easy to lose birds once shot, as the dogs can't get a mark on them as they can't see a damn thing..! Apparently it will be sprayed off early next year and ploughed in, a top quality break crop, but very frustrating to shoot. Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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