Bluebarrels Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 Now I've not bought any carts for a long time,just popped out to the gunshop and paid £64 for 250 clear pigeon 30g fibre,is this about the right price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 Yep, ludicrous ain't it 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted October 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 Now I understand we have to pay the price listed,but these would work out roughly £240 per 1000 and these were the cheapest carts he had! Might be time to start using steel as I mainly shoot Corvids,BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 I've paid £95 for 250 in the past .20b black gold Cheapest carts i can get for my 20 b are about £75 A slab . So you got yours cheap mate . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoozer Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 Brought a slab for the Lincoln yesterday, Hull Pro Twenty 21g 7.5 @ £62 thought that reasonable'ish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 Last lot I bought, Express Pigeon Power P/W were £63 a brick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 Best dust off the reloading gear then! Lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evolution380 Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) Best dust off the reloading gear then! Lol! I can't make it economical, I want to do it for the enjoyment but I can't make a saving with 12GA. I worked out if I use spent hulls from my superfasts i'd still be at circa £275.00 a thousand to reload a 30g / No. 6 Shot Fibre Wad cart with Maxam powder and CX2000 primers. Off shooting in the cotswolds this weekend so I'm going to just pick up some Eley Pigeon Selects 30g No. 6 or Gamebore Velocity Pigeon which I can get either for £220.00 a thou. Any heads up which is best out of the two? Edited October 20, 2017 by evolution380 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted October 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) I've paid £95 for 250 in the past .20b black gold Cheapest carts i can get for my 20 b are timestamp="1508491044"] I've paid £95 for 250 in the past .20b black gold Cheapest carts i can get for my 20 b are about £75 A slab . So you got yours cheap mate . 20g are always more expensive than 12g mate Edited October 20, 2017 by Bluebarrels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 most reloads hover at 180-220/k but you get what you want. thats AS (at old price) fibre 28g #6 i got some down to 160/k but they were 21g loads and the powder isnt readily available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 Now I understand we have to pay the price listed,but these would work out roughly £240 per 1000 and these were the cheapest carts he had! Might be time to start using steel as I mainly shoot Corvids,BB are steel much cheaper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted October 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) are steel much cheaper?Now after reading your post I did a very quick search on the net.1000 X 30g clear pigeon £248 1000 X 28g steel £159 £89 difference per 1000,and anything shot with steel Is easier to sell on to Hawkers etc,just a thought BB Now before anyone jumps on the lead v steel debate most of my shooting is decoying at sensible ranges,and to be honest when I've used steel in the past I found them to up to the job. Edited October 20, 2017 by Bluebarrels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberFowl Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) I just bought a few more slabs of 20gauge cartridges today RC 24g steel for the wildfowling £72.50 RC 21g 7.5 for the clays £66.50 The 24g steel loads through the 20 are patterning well and killed some good rangey crows yesterday afternoon. Steel is definitely up to the job Edited October 20, 2017 by AberFowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted October 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 So the price of steel is much lower than lead and most of us prefer/ use lead.So demand for steel is much lower,but let's say when and if a lead ban should come in forcing everyone to use steel and demand for steel is most of the market that should lower prices further! Yeah really lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 If you go to clay and game lead shot is £3.60 /kg, steel shot is £2.60/kg, as you use 750 to 800g shot per box, it would suggest their should only be roughly £30 thousand difference between a lead and steel loading all other things being equal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted October 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) why the massive price difference between clay and game cartridges? At the end of the day a 12g cart can only hold more or less the same components!maybe a little better quality but are we paying much more for fancy names and printing on the carts and box? Edited October 20, 2017 by Bluebarrels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead eye alan Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 why the massive price difference between clay and game cartridges? At the end of the day a 12g cart can only hold more or less the same components!maybe a little better quality but are we paying much more for fancy names and printing on the carts and box? Yes we are the difference between 6 and 7.5 makes about £50 a thousand can you make sense of that. I am using 7.5 ely jets do the job and do not jam the hatsan for £169 a thousand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 hello, cheapest steel carts no 5 at just carts are VIP @ £220 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 Gamebore Black Gold 28g fibre no 6.5 £270 Gamebore Black Gold Game 28g fibre no 6 £310 As close a comparable as you can get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_R Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 Finding steel shot with fibre wads remains a challenge unless I have missed something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 Now I've not bought any carts for a long time,just popped out to the gunshop and paid £64 for 250 clear pigeon 30g fibre,is this about the right price? have you tried contacting George ? free carriage if buy 2000 i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted October 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 No one said anything about steel fibre loads,I just said I might consider using steel carts. £159 a 1000 is a localish gun shop,just cartridges are on the expensive side anyway mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 Finding steel shot with fibre wads remains a challenge unless I have missed something. They are produced for reloading but 3.5 times price of plastic equivalent. From a manufacturers point of view would you pay £100 more per thousand for fibre steel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_R Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 It was more of a general comment, I know all the land I shoot insists on fibre and that means steel is a non starter for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted October 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Fair comment John_R I understand where your coming from,fortunately the landowner I shoot for is okay with me using plastic,BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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