James Bulger (petition)

[picardy]

Just a heads up,there’s a petition that’s been started by Jamie bulgers mother to try and get government to re-investigate the extremely poor sentence that been given to John Venables!  Let’s all get behind poor Denise Bulger and support her .

[silver pigeon69]

any links?

[Jaymo]

Since when did we ‘The Public’ become responsible for the Law.

Im not condoning him, or any other criminal- but just because we don’t agree with the sentencing handed out,should we really be getting involved.

There are many scrotes who seem to get lenient sentencing and its frustrating, but it’s the Courts domain and not ours.

If you really disagree, then take up the Legal Profession.

[picardy]

47 minutes ago, Jaymo said:

Since when did we ‘The Public’ become responsible for the Law.

Im not condoning him, or any other criminal- but just because we don’t agree with the sentencing handed out,should we really be getting involved.

There are many scrotes who seem to get lenient sentencing and its frustrating, but it’s the Courts domain and not ours.

If you really disagree, then take up the Legal Profession.

There’s always one! If you want to harbour the scum don’t sign it simple 

1 hour ago, silver pigeon69 said:

any links?

 

1 hour ago, silver pigeon69 said:

any links?

Not sure pal, someone sent it to me last night and I just googled it .

[Jaymo]

Edit Edit Edit - 

Scale the crime back a to say? Speeding, I get a two month ban and you get 6 months- is it fair? Do you wish to start a petition to change my sentence when it was handed down according to law

 

[picardy]

9 minutes ago, Jaymo said:

Edit Edit Edit - 

Scale the crime back a to say? Speeding, I get a two month ban and you get 6 months- is it fair? Do you wish to start a petition to change my sentence when it was handed down according to law

 

Like I said if you don’t agree don’t sign it ! ?

[guzzicat]

8 minutes ago, picardy said:

Like I said if you don’t agree don’t sign it ! ?

& Don,t speed, I am up to the back teeth getting tailgated by cars that catch me up because I dare to observe speed limits.

[Jaymo]

Guzzi

I have a clean licence, get my speed thrills on the track

[Lloyd90]

12 minutes ago, picardy said:

Like I said if you don’t agree don’t sign it ! ?

You don’t need to be so rude mate your behaviour is very childish! 

Your suggestion that Jaymo believing that the courts should be left to decide the law (god forbid) that he wishes to support the individual is just ridiculous. 

That aside I agree with Jaymo, the law is for the legally qualified to uphold and enfornce through the system we have in place.

if you don’t like our system look at other parts of the world, our ain’t perfect but to the best I’ve seen!! 

[12gauge82]

I' going to have a search and sign it, cheers op

[silver pigeon69]

1 hour ago, Jaymo said:

Since when did we ‘The Public’ become responsible for the Law.

Im not condoning him, or any other criminal- but just because we don’t agree with the sentencing handed out,should we really be getting involved.

There are many scrotes who seem to get lenient sentencing and its frustrating, but it’s the Courts domain and not ours.

If you really disagree, then take up the Legal Profession.

Thats like saying we shouldn't petition the govrnment when we dont agree with their policies??

Have you ever signed a petition protesting against something?? If so what was it?

Edit: What are "the Public" allowed to petition against. By petitioning we are not becoming responsable for the law or any other subject, we are clearly lodging a protest against that subject.

 

Edited February 11, 2018 by silver pigeon69

[Delwint]

It won’t be long before someone gets to him in prison. 

[12gauge82]

This appears to be the petition

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/206851 

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2 minutes ago, Delwint said:

It won’t be long before someone gets to him in prison. 

I wouldn't be so sure, he'll have a false identity and he'll probably be held on a special unit with a very small number of prisoners to ensure no one injures him.

[ordnance]

4 minutes ago, Delwint said:

It won’t be long before someone gets to him in prison. 

How will they know who he is. ?

[silver pigeon69]

Signed!

not because i want to be responsible for the law, but because i want to protest at something i dont agree with.

Edited February 11, 2018 by silver pigeon69

[Delwint]

The prisoners are sharing pictures apparently. On the mobile phones that they don’t possess.

I too have signed it. 178,000 signatures now so it will be discussed in parliament 

Edited February 11, 2018 by Delwint

[das]

30 minutes ago, silver pigeon69 said:

Thats like saying we shouldn't petition the govrnment when we dont agree with their policies??

Have you ever signed a petition protesting against something?? If so what was it?

Edit: What are "the Public" allowed to petition against. By petitioning we are not becoming responsable for the law or any other subject, we are clearly lodging a protest against that subject.

 

Signed a petition against the pending discussion the licencing of air rifles, and I don't always agree with their policies especially when they have
no real idea of what the discussion is about except to appease the masses and make it seem that they are doing something worthwhile
with no idea of the consequences of it or how it will or can be implemented

 

[Lloyd90]

12 minutes ago, das said:

Signed a petition against the pending discussion the licencing of air rifles, and I don't always agree with their policies especially when they have
no real idea of what the discussion is about except to appease the masses and make it seem that they are doing something worthwhile
with no idea of the consequences of it or how it will or can be implemented

 

 

Many peoprl petitioned and campaigned for the banning of fox hunting. 

The public got involved and it ended up banned. Many have said it did nothing for animal welfare etc. 

do you trust the general public to get involved in firearms Licencing? 

In farming affairs? 

In any complicated topic of which they uah very little knowledge? 

 

[Lloyd90]

12 minutes ago, das said:

Signed a petition against the pending discussion the licencing of air rifles, and I don't always agree with their policies especially when they have
no real idea of what the discussion is about except to appease the masses and make it seem that they are doing something worthwhile
with no idea of the consequences of it or how it will or can be implemented

 

 

Many peoprl petitioned and campaigned for the banning of fox hunting. 

The public got involved and it ended up banned. Many have said it did nothing for animal welfare etc. 

do you trust the general public to get involved in firearms Licencing? 

In farming affairs? 

In any complicated topic of which they uah very little knowledge? 

 

[picardy]

1 hour ago, Lloyd90 said:

You don’t need to be so rude mate your behaviour is very childish! 

Your suggestion that Jaymo believing that the courts should be left to decide the law (god forbid) that he wishes to support the individual is just ridiculous. 

That aside I agree with Jaymo, the law is for the legally qualified to uphold and enfornce through the system we have in place.

if you don’t like our system look at other parts of the world, our ain’t perfect but to the best I’ve seen!! 

I’m not your mate pal , just trying to do the right thing 

[Rewulf]

Lloyd and Jaymo, we live in a democracy.

If there's something that happens within it you don't agree with ,you have right to protest it.

It doesn't matter if you are not qualified in the subject ,but you have a right,as a citizen to have a say.

It doesn't mean anyone's going to listen, or take action in any way. But you have the right.

Sign the petition, or don't, but don't tell people whether they are qualified or not to have their say.

[TriBsa]

Reading the actual petition; which could have been clearer, this appears to be criticising the Parole Board for early release and not the courts for the sentence.

[Whatmuff]

2 hours ago, Delwint said:

It won’t be long before someone gets to him in prison. 

I hope someone does and makes that low life piece of scum suffer in the most imaginable way possible. There is no space on earth for someone like him. Bring back capital punishment and get rid of these cretins. What ever his sentence was, it was no where near enough for the things he did to that poor 2 yr old. The media only covered a small part of what was actually carried out as the rest was so shocking. It was a study I did back for media studies when it happened and shocked me to my core. Evil pair of devil's.

[strimmer_13]

[Jaymo]

36 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

Lloyd and Jaymo, we live in a democracy.

If there's something that happens within it you don't agree with ,you have right to protest it.

It doesn't matter if you are not qualified in the subject ,but you have a right,as a citizen to have a say.

It doesn't mean anyone's going to listen, or take action in any way. But you have the right.

Sign the petition, or don't, but don't tell people whether they are qualified or not to have their say.

Where did Lloyd or I ever tell you that you should or shouldn’t sign? Like a certain other thread that regularly appears here, you have you own view and that’s apparently the only acceptable view.

Thats what I glean from it anyway, however I apologise if I’m wrong.

 

Whatmuff, suppose you also contributed to the Capital punishment thread? So murder with its associated sentencing isn’t sufficient for you and that you feel that it should be sub classified into possibly the following?

Murder of someone the same age- Prison

Murder of a senior citizen- poss death penalty 

Murder of a child- definitely the death penalty, a child murdering a child- still the same?

When they carried out what was obviously a heinous crime they were ‘kids’ and under the age of responsibility.

Its not right what they did of course, and this is going to come out entirely not as I mean it too, but children of that age dont Act in a rational way of thinking of their actions as an adult does! 

The lad served his sentence, what he did after could have been shaped from many circumstances from his own experiences, those experienced in prison or those he faced out of prison ( I’m not involved or qualified to say either way)

If this is a petition over the original sentence or just one that you and others feel he should be locked away indefinitely for a crime that doesn’t actually carry this level of sentencing or as some others have said “ hope the scum dies” , condone murder do you? 

 

Edited February 11, 2018 by Jaymo