muncher Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 Hi all, I'm fairly new to this rifle and I not sure what to expect, I have shot some targets a measured 100 yards. These are the last two I shot the one flyer was a strange bang and a lot of smoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnie Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 Normally tac drivers but can be ammo choosey same as any other combination, scope choice and the big one the person pulling the trigger 2nd one not too bad at 100yrds, I love mine great on vermin, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPP Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 Winchester Ammo? Exactly my experience, switch to Hornady sorted problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted July 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 Correct Winchester ammo, I will try some Hornady. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPP Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, muncher said: Correct Winchester ammo, I will try some Hornady. Thanks No problem, just my experience using Browning Tbolt. CCi game point worse than Winchester.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 Yep, try the Hornady and then it down to the nut behind the wheel. I shoot a standard CZ 455 and if I have not drank to much coffee and had a good night sleep the rifle will shoot a ragged hole at a 100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted July 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 Cheers, I think I need to lighten the trigger a bit . Monday I will get some Hornady to test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bone Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 Cz 455 american, Remington 17grn spot on 100yrds anything else bad grouping. as said above can be Ammo fussy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Callahan Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 47 minutes ago, Walker570 said: Yep, try the Hornady and then it down to the nut behind the wheel. I shoot a standard CZ 455 and if I have not drank to much coffee and had a good night sleep the rifle will shoot a ragged hole at a 100 I see folks saying the likes of that quite a bit. How do you have the rifle when you do it? Held firm on a bench? I am by no way having a go, but I'm genuinely curious (and bloody envious!!) of such shooting. When I zero my rifles they are on my Harris bipod. I'm either stood with rifle on Defender bonnet, or sat with rifle on the ground (bipod is the largest telescopic Harris do). Best I can get @ 100yds is to group about 2.5-3 inches, so about a rabbits head. I know the rifle (CZ452 Varmint in HMR) can do better, but I can not... not that I'm really fussed - I know I will hit and kill at the range... I'd be happy with the grouping in the 2nd pic - I'd just be hoping to move it to the centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 By no means an expert on the .17hmr but my Annie will shoot one hole ragged groups at 100 yards - occasional flyer but most likely me - if you buy a box of Hornady and they seem to cure the problem then go back and buy as many as you can from the same batch/dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 Usually I am sitting in one of my cabins shooting off a 'table' built around the sides The tables well wide shelves really, have soft padded surfaces( floor pads from Aldi). I have my good days and bad days but the rifle doesn't have that problem and as said if I am in steady form that result is what I would expect. The rifle is capable of shooting far better than I can. I once had an automatic trigger release where I could sandbag a rifle set on target and have it fire without any human contact. That destroyed my soul because I knew the groups I was personally shooting where due my input. I try to shoot relaxed and only with a very gentle grip...unless it is my 375JDJ and that needs controlling or it will bite you...these days my big problem is slowing my heart rate as I can actually see it beating as the reticule moves with each beat.....never did that 40 years ago. The big thing is knowing exactly where that cross hair was when the sear breaks and being able to call the shot and forgetting all else. If your thinking about the trigger you will funk it in my view. Foxes and rabbits don't have bulls eyes on them do they? 11 minutes ago, bruno22rf said: By no means an expert on the .17hmr but my Annie will shoot one hole ragged groups at 100 yards - occasional flyer but most likely me - if you buy a box of Hornady and they seem to cure the problem then go back and buy as many as you can from the same batch/dealer. Yes, with all rim fires buy a batch of 500 all with the same batch number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant1 Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 been out last week to zero new scope hawke vantage for 17hmr. hardly any wind but was raining. got 9 rounds out of ten that i could cover with a 2p coin.at 100 yards. im happy enough with that grouping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marccus Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 What make of rifle is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted July 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 7 hours ago, Marccus said: What make of rifle is it? Ruger with a Niko Sterling scope not sold on the scope yet ,tried the cz but found the Ruger was a lot smoother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 14 hours ago, bruno22rf said: By no means an expert on the .17hmr but my Annie will shoot one hole ragged groups at 100 yards - occasional flyer but most likely me - if you buy a box of Hornady and they seem to cure the problem then go back and buy as many as you can from the same batch/dealer. Ditto for mates Sako .17HMR. A real tackdriver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitester Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 My t bolt will now group well within an inch at 100 yards with Hornady . I had a bit of trouble but think I have figured it out now. i lightened the trigger, made the barrel completely free floating but filing away some of the composit stock and I put a pull through down it after every box of 50. i think the free floating bit is the most important as since I've done this I'm now getting some touching groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Callahan Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 Cheers for the replies (sorry if I hijacked thread!). I can't really guarantee I'm aiming the same place every time. Everything moves from pulling the trigger through to pulling trigger again. I just try and have the cross over the centre of the target... But, I'm not shooting comps just pest control so aslong as I'm consistently hitting where I want to be it's all I'm interested in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted July 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, Harry Callahan said: Cheers for the replies (sorry if I hijacked thread!). I can't really guarantee I'm aiming the same place every time. Everything moves from pulling the trigger through to pulling trigger again. I just try and have the cross over the centre of the target... But, I'm not shooting comps just pest control so aslong as I'm consistently hitting where I want to be it's all I'm interested in. No you didn't hijack the thread, with people saying they head shoot rabbits at 150 yards I thought with the group s I'm getting I will miss at those ranges more than I hit. I know I'm probably not a good shot but I was hoping for a bit better using bipod and sandbags . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPP Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 150M Rabbit headshot is quite some feat.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Callahan Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, PPP said: 150M Rabbit headshot is quite some feat.. +1. Bodyshot is good enough!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Callahan Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 33 minutes ago, muncher said: No you didn't hijack the thread, with people saying they head shoot rabbits at 150 yards I thought with the group s I'm getting I will miss at those ranges more than I hit. I know I'm probably not a good shot but I was hoping for a bit better using bipod and sandbags . IMO your 2nd picture - that grouping is pretty decent (ignoring the 1 stray which went high!!). I just happen to have a 10p and a ruler to hand - 10p is 1inch diameter which means your group is under 2inches @ 100yards. That is head shot bunnies all day long. The only thing I'd want to do is get it on centre as you are low and to the left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetter Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 (edited) .My Browning T Bolt will do 3/4" to1" as 100 yards consistently off the bench and from there I stopped worrying as its easily a bunnies head at that range. Much beyond that and I cant reliably hit bunnies heads anyway in field conditions as most of my shooting is done walking round my permissions so its generally off sticks either standing or kneeling. I don't know what you were shooting before you got the HMR but when I got my rimfires and then centrefires coming from airguns and club shooting I got a bit obsessed with group size. However a couple of people more knowledgeable than me pointed out that if your after rabbits the general size of their bonce is 2" so that's what you need to hit at the common distances you need to shoot at with the HMR. Any decent head hit and its curtains for mr bunny. For foxes and up the calibres go up a bit and so does the kill area to an extent. For me if my rifles with hold an inch at 100 yards that will do for me as long as I do my job which most of the time is the deciding factor. PS I don't know what it is with Winchester ammo but I found that it was much poorer than Hornaday! Edited July 22, 2018 by Zetter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 The 17HMR is well capable of out shooting most of us. I put on here some time ago an incident with a grey tree rat taunting me at the other end of a 200yrd ride through a wood. Eventually I got mad and set the hairs just above its ears and squeezed one off. It was like everyhting went into slow motion as the tree rat did a back flip and never twitched. It was sat at 190yrds. Down to the the rifle not me. I did have a custom built shooting rack on the truck to shoot off, pure luck as my heart was 'clicking' the cross hairs back and forth three times the width of its head. The bullet hit it in the base of the neck/gullet. Certainly one of, if not my favorite calibre to shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbower Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 Anyone want to buy some Winchester 17HMR? No ? Well I wouldn't sell it to you , its only fit for plinking , because its so inconsistent, and some dont even fire . The Hornady from CZ452, will produce good groups at 75 yards, and I don't shoot anything further away than 75 yards , as through any of the scopes I own at full magnification a rabbit is the size of a garden pea held at arms length. My limitations , not the rifles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted July 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2018 Cheers everyone,I will get some Hornady and shoots some more and post up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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