Wb123 Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 I normally do my own tyres breaking the bead with a hi-lift across the garage side door frame. Despite every four letter word in the book I could not get this ****** to budge. I eventually admitted defeat and took it down to my local tyre guy whose lad put it on the bead breaker but that wouldn’t shift it either. They turned up the compressor to the limit but still no dice. The bloke who owns the place then came down, dusted off a huge hgv bead breaker out back but that still wouldn’t budge it. He says it’s the first in his career he hasn’t been able to break the bead on and reckons the tyre is glued on. Does anyone have any handy tips for getting the tyre off without wrecking the alloy or risking a recipe for disaster with an angle grinder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fen tiger Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 First try easy way work the side wall, ply wood on floor get a big car van tractor jeep drive up on the wall of tyre get an atheletic switch on GOOD mate to dance on the rim keep it down, the working of the sidewall can sometimes break them free when glued, with like underseal stuff like that but depending what they used i think you could well be into the cut it off method. Get through the wall of the tyre with a knife or similar hacksaw blade in a blade handle or duck tape it up, and cut round the tyre (use jig saw air saw risiprocating saw if you got one)then you can see what is going on. Heat gun will probably destroy the integrity of the adhesive and yet not damage the wheels finish externally you then should be able to get it to move. If its stubon still, keep chewing through the beed wire area of the tyre side nips stanley knife on the rubber itself until it gives up they you should be able to pull it off the beed well of the rim. I had a car tyre a firestone on a 15 inch motorcycle wheel again 15 inch but bothe were different size and the car tyre tighter that was a pain to break free i got it free but was tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 Probably been bonded on with windscreen sealer, usually requires cutting off. I dont envy you 😐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 Stop beating it and get the angle grinder and cutting disc out. I would trim all the tyre away with knife and saw leaving a as little side wall and the bead to cut with grinder. Should only take five mins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 (edited) back in 1974 i was a tyre fitter, never had one that would not come off,even on the M5 when they were building it, l ways got the big earth moving tyres off, so yours is realey stuck on. Edited April 19, 2019 by mossy835 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 I think the suggestion is its a corroded wheel that's been sealed with something? If you get the tyre off you are still going to have the problem of the corrosion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetyler Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 Soak it over night with wd 40 or any maintenance spray. Wake up next day and use a heat gun on about 3 inch, get a big chissel and hit it on a angle under the lip if the rim downwards. Heat gun will warm any glue or sealer up and should break the bead. Use to have this with 30 year old trailer tyres no pressure would get it off but a good shock will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fen tiger Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 On 19/04/2019 at 17:20, figgy said: Stop beating it and get the angle grinder and cutting disc out. I would trim all the tyre away with knife and saw leaving a as little side wall and the bead to cut with grinder. Should only take five mins. I once was in the same yard as a chap who was cutting through a mounting and hit rubber with angle grinder the disk exploded he was lucky just to get his face ripped open. I personaly wont go near rubber with grinding disks . Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wb123 Posted April 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 No chance I’m using a cutting disc on the tyre. I have seen the results of such escapades going wrong and would sooner scrap the rim. A reciprocating saw on on the other hand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 21, 2019 Report Share Posted April 21, 2019 I've used them on rubber in the past, depends on the disc and who is using it. If your more comfy using a saw that's the the tool to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted April 21, 2019 Report Share Posted April 21, 2019 I have used the stabilising foot of cranes in the past to break seals if you have a scape yard by you nip in and ask them to try as a 10 crane is a lot of pressure just a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix's rifle Posted April 21, 2019 Report Share Posted April 21, 2019 Get a hydraulic bottle Jack, a heavy car and the wheel, put the wheel under the car and the jack on the bead (as close as you can) jack the car up then bounce on the tow bar. If it doesnt come off that way, it wont come off lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetyler Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 Did you solve the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 Not sure if this helps, we used to put the wheel on the floor with the one edge of the tyre against the wall . Then drive a Land Rover over the opposite edge and the bead would break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksheep Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 I use a kettle full of boiling water poured around the rim , you get enough expansion to crack the bead off then using the usual methods , have never failed doing it this way . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wb123 Posted April 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 On 21/04/2019 at 15:58, Hendrix's rifle said: Get a hydraulic bottle Jack, a heavy car and the wheel, put the wheel under the car and the jack on the bead (as close as you can) jack the car up then bounce on the tow bar. If it doesnt come off that way, it wont come off lol That was the first thing I tried, then the door frame. On 28/04/2019 at 11:09, pigeon controller said: Not sure if this helps, we used to put the wheel on the floor with the one edge of the tyre against the wall . Then drive a Land Rover over the opposite edge and the bead would break. Tried that one also, no joy either. On 28/04/2019 at 11:55, Blacksheep said: I use a kettle full of boiling water poured around the rim , you get enough expansion to crack the bead off then using the usual methods , have never failed doing it this way . Interesting idea, I will give that a crack. On 24/04/2019 at 20:14, Davetyler said: Did you solve the problem? Not yet. Fortunately managed to get five alloys with decent tyres for £120 to tide me over. I am working away at the moment so it may be a while before I get another shot at the things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Davetyler Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 What area are you from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 Spaldings sell them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wb123 Posted May 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 On 07/05/2019 at 19:20, Davetyler said: What area are you from? Working in England but wheels currently in Northern Ireland. On 07/05/2019 at 20:54, 39TDS said: Spaldings sell them. That’s an interesting looking bit of kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopylui Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 Break clean and a lot or persistence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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