Krieghoffoverblaser Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, Savage10FP said: The truth is?????? He's not singing his victory from the rafters despite reminding everyone he's a "multiple world champion" Plus being removed from Gamebore pro shots and Pilla Athletes (Brand ambassador) can only add to the reputational damage right??? Taking there time reinstating him? 🤔🤔🤔🤔 As for lawyers 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Ben's posted just as much about rival eye dom products then back tracked and deleted! Luckily we all have smart phones. Still waiting on this magical evidence the SP doesn't work! He's changed his tune too.........its now other ruptubale coaches saying it doesn't work............Still no hard evidence 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️ and potentially liable right? You sound very bitter and twisted, I would back his assumption on the device you stated I tried it and cannot see the concept. Having spoke to an Olympian and a eye specialist about it at the time via a social media platform they also dismissed its uses. So it would appear your hatred should be directed world wide not just towards a person. I do believe all sponsors are on board and some big announcements on large scale uk based shoots and individual deals are in the pipeline (bh hope i can say that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 39 minutes ago, Demonic69 said: Yes! Ever spent any time on social media? The bile spewed by the keyboard-protected is phenomenal. People are now allowed to be much meaner to each other than ever before, simply because there's little chance of them getting a smack in the gob. Look at the referendum and the election. The way we were spoken about wouldn't have happened down the local or in a place of work. But these wazzocks get a nice safe zone, from where they can hurl abuse without fear of repercussion. I don't really know the history and context of the BH issue, and I think "celebs" have to have thicker skin. But the base sentiment of his post rings true for me and, I dare say, millions of others. No, don't bother with it, I use PW, but nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic69 Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 minute ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: No, don't bother with it, I use PW, but nothing else. Best way, it's not good for the grey hairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just now, Demonic69 said: Best way, it's not good for the grey hairs Oh I got those years ago working in Bomb Disposal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage10FP Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, Krieghoffoverblaser said: You sound very bitter and twisted, I would back his assumption on the device you stated I tried it and cannot see the concept. Having spoke to an Olympian and a eye specialist about it at the time via a social media platform they also dismissed its uses. So it would appear your hatred should be directed world wide not just towards a person. I do believe all sponsors are on board and some big announcements on large scale uk based shoots and individual deals are in the pipeline (bh hope i can say that) And yet no evidence to back it up! Just more hear say to damage one products reputation whilst promoting another!! Just more deleted comments to hide behind. Where is this solid science saying it doesn't work and where is it posted and by whom?? I saw the posts..........A Olympian said it doesn't work.........via a 3rd party if I recall. Please feel free to provide me with the links???? Yes I see online.............they have shown Ben great support 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 No hatred! Just not naive enough to believe someone on there word and there word is final 😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krieghoffoverblaser Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Savage10FP said: And yet no evidence to back it up! Just more hear say to damage one products reputation whilst promoting another!! Just more deleted comments to hide behind. Where is this solid science saying it doesn't work and where is it posted and by whom?? I saw the posts..........A Olympian said it doesn't work.........via a 3rd party if I recall. Please feel free to provide me with the links???? Yes I see online.............they have shown Ben great support 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 No hatred! Just not naive enough to believe someone on there word and there word is final 😂😂😂 But that’s where social platforms give voices to the wrong people. I play a lot of golf and I wish we had some of the best in the world to offer advice via forums as I’m sure we would listen. In shooting champions offer their time and advice and you get someone with a awful average and voice trying to argue. It’s simply ludicrous to argue with a world champion, Olympic champion and one of the best recognised eye specialists, also it isn’t third party it was to myself directly. the gent in question openly showed us emails he receives and his sponsors (He was genuinely open about it) and the replies that were sent and none of them are or were taken seriously and were laughed about between parties. I would suggest this has raised already high profile and has caused no harm at all. Edited February 13, 2020 by Krieghoffoverblaser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, Krieghoffoverblaser said: But that’s where social platforms give voices to the wrong people. I play a lot of golf and I wish we had some of the best in the world to offer advice via forums as I’m sure we would listen. In shooting champions offer their time and advice and you get someone with a awful average and voice trying to argue. It’s simply ludicrous to argue with a world champion, Olympic champion and one of the best recognised eye specialists, also it isn’t third party it was to myself directly. the gent in question openly showed us emails he receives and his sponsors (He was genuinely open about it) and the replies that were sent and none of them are or were taken seriously and were laughed about between parties. I would suggest this has raised already high profile and has caused no harm at all. this thread should be locked now as it’s off topic The eye Rail is not even a new idea, variations of it have existed for decades. What exactly do you or anyone else mean when you say you can’t argue with an Olympian or an eye specialist for that matter ? If it weren’t for people standing up and arguing against others long held beliefs we’d all be shooting the exact same way and method ! The SP has plenty of high grade shots who maintain it helps them so who are you or he to say it doesn’t work ! I suppose you’ll be telling us you can’t shoot both eyes open off the wrong shoulder next because I have done so for 30+ years and reached a decent standard. Famous eye specialists seem, ehem, a bit baffled but the proof is in the pudding as they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage10FP Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Krieghoffoverblaser said: But that’s where social platforms give voices to the wrong people. I play a lot of golf and I wish we had some of the best in the world to offer advice via forums as I’m sure we would listen. In shooting champions offer their time and advice and you get someone with a awful average and voice trying to argue. It’s simply ludicrous to argue with a world champion, Olympic champion and one of the best recognised eye specialists, also it isn’t third party it was to myself directly. the gent in question openly showed us emails he receives and his sponsors (He was genuinely open about it) and the replies that were sent and none of them are or were taken seriously and were laughed about between parties. I would suggest this has raised already high profile and has caused no harm at all. this thread should be locked now as it’s off topic Still not provided no hard evidence or direct names! There is a reason for this. If there is evidence? Provide it!! None is provided saying it doesn't work in case it can't be backed up in court.......its potentially liable! It's why your buddy backtracked and deleted his comments and allowed his fanboys to continue. It's why you have failed to name the Olympian and best recognised eye specialist.............because they haven't directly said it doesn't work! Look forward to seeing Ben all over Gamebore and pilla's website again. Now that its all been officially resolved right and he's been cleared right? I imagine it would be done instantly right?? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 Or will it be time for Ben to come up with some excuse to move on, make changes and announce new sponsors?? Time will tell ⌚⌚⌚⌚⌚ Edited February 13, 2020 by Savage10FP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 50 minutes ago, Krieghoffoverblaser said: But that’s where social platforms give voices to the wrong people. I play a lot of golf and I wish we had some of the best in the world to offer advice via forums as I’m sure we would listen. In shooting champions offer their time and advice and you get someone with a awful average and voice trying to argue. It’s simply ludicrous to argue with a world champion, Olympic champion and one of the best recognised eye specialists, also it isn’t third party it was to myself directly. the gent in question openly showed us emails he receives and his sponsors (He was genuinely open about it) and the replies that were sent and none of them are or were taken seriously and were laughed about between parties. I would suggest this has raised already high profile and has caused no harm at all. this thread should be locked now as it’s off topic A.K.A. people with a differing view to yours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krieghoffoverblaser Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 minute ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: A.K.A. people with a differing view to yours! Not really mine as I fall u see the **** average hence I don’t argue. But b class shooters with a axe to grind arguing that world and Olympic champions are wrong is ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 Some of the posts on here wreak of trying to shut the discussion down, I wonder why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buze Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) Careful guys, the trolls are only there to have this thread closed (one already asked for it, sitting on his 88 post history, that certainly gives him authority! :-)), remember the old internet adage, "don't feed the trolls". I personally read this with interest, I don't know the details, or the persons involved personally, but I do like hearing about the issues, especially since it seems there is a concerted effort to bury any discussion -- with methods that are quite elaborate I have to mention. (Edit: 16 posts! :-)) Edited February 13, 2020 by buze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage10FP Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 37 minutes ago, Krieghoffoverblaser said: Not really mine as I fall u see the **** average hence I don’t argue. But b class shooters with a axe to grind arguing that world and Olympic champions are wrong is ridiculous No axe to grind here! Just highlighting what you blatantly don't want to see. Your efforts at damage limitation are poor at best buddy! Which fanboy or sponsored shooter are you then? You know me! Maybe I can send you all my evidence of Ben's deleting. Or would you rather I turned a blind eye to it all because he has such integrity after all 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krieghoffoverblaser Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, Savage10FP said: No axe to grind here! Just highlighting what you blatantly don't want to see. Your efforts at damage limitation are poor at best buddy! Which fanboy or sponsored shooter are you then? You know me! Maybe I can send you all my evidence of Ben's deleting. Or would you rather I turned a blind eye to it all because he has such integrity after all 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I only met him for the first time yesterday. What I can say is what I found that’s it. I’ve heard numerous TOP shots At garlands berate the product you talk about I wished I’d have seen some posts and saved myself some money. If the top shots say it’s naff it’s probably naff. I paid in full for my time with him and have since booked numerous hours this year so no fan boy here. I have had an inbox from someone I believe is sponsored by BH whom you know who’s told me your name and not to engage with you because your hatred clouds your judgment but yet you run when you see him in person? Which I guess is what his posts about in the first place. I have now asked about your email now I know whom you are and it seems your have a go at the sponsors technique was laughed under the table ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benhusthwaite Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Krieghoffoverblaser said: You sound very bitter and twisted, I would back his assumption on the device you stated I tried it and cannot see the concept. Having spoke to an Olympian and a eye specialist about it at the time via a social media platform they also dismissed its uses. So it would appear your hatred should be directed world wide not just towards a person. I do believe all sponsors are on board and some big announcements on large scale uk based shoots and individual deals are in the pipeline (bh hope i can say that) No you can say that it’s fine. Details Of the shoot will be released shortly. I’m not going to say much except please don’t lock the thread I actually enjoy the reading !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage10FP Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Krieghoffoverblaser said: I only met him for the first time yesterday. What I can say is what I found that’s it. I’ve heard numerous TOP shots At garlands berate the product you talk about I wished I’d have seen some posts and saved myself some money. If the top shots say it’s naff it’s probably naff. I paid in full for my time with him and have since booked numerous hours this year so no fan boy here. I have had an inbox from someone I believe is sponsored by BH whom you know who’s told me your name and not to engage with you because your hatred clouds your judgment but yet you run when you see him in person? Which I guess is what his posts about in the first place. I have now asked about your email now I know whom you are and it seems your have a go at the sponsors technique was laughed under the table Yet you have!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I imagine I know full well who it is! He's definitely a fan boy with all the Ben gear........he paid for himself!! That's some sponsorship 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krieghoffoverblaser Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Savage10FP said: Yet you have!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I imagine I know full well who it is! He's definitely a fan boy with all the Ben gear........he paid for himself!! That's some sponsorship 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ Crikey another shooter your slagging off. With the average you have maybe invest in lessons instead putting these people down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage10FP Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Krieghoffoverblaser said: Crikey another shooter your slagging off. With the average you have maybe invest in lessons instead putting these people down It's a fact! I imagine I'll be seeing him In a couple of weeks too. After all he has shot with me previously 👍👍👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, Benhusthwaite said: please don’t lock the thread I actually enjoy the reading !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 45 minutes ago, Krieghoffoverblaser said: I only met him for the first time yesterday. Are you sure about that?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 19 minutes ago, Teal said: Are you sure about that?! Excellent ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timps Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Teal said: Are you sure about that?! Why isn’t there a like button on PW 😂 Back to the thread, I really don’t get why there would be a non disclosure agreement over an innocent or a no further sanctions decision. It will be interesting to see the entry list for the World sporting over the next 3 years it will certainly prove or disprove the rumour that’s going around. So much spin on both sides of the argument with fake or misleading accounts on forums and Facebook groups it’s highly entertaining reading, but it is very sad for the sport (if I can call it that now) as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Krieghoffoverblaser said: Not really mine as I fall u see the **** average hence I don’t argue. But b class shooters with a axe to grind arguing that world and Olympic champions are wrong is ridiculous Blimey is that your qualifying requirement? I am currently only an A class shot, used to be AAA when I was shooting regularly back in the last century! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage10FP Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Blimey is that your qualifying requirement? I am currently only an A class shot, used to be AAA when I was shooting regularly back in the last century! Afraid so! Similar average to the sponsored shooter that knows me, after nearly a year of tuition 🤔🤔🤔🤔 Oh well 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 Quote Are you sure about that?! Over to you Krieghoffoverblaser. I await your answer with interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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