gotgcoalman Posted November 25, 2019 Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 Only using 28g as I was given a shed load of them with the gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shalfordninja33 Posted November 25, 2019 Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 On 24/11/2019 at 11:25, London Best said: What Billy said all day. I just don’t understand why folk buy a 20 bore and persist in using 12 bore loads through it. Or perhaps they don’t understand that they are actually using a 12 bore load? Yep, I experimented with 28gm and quckly reverted back to 25/26gm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPP Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 25gr hull hp in 6, anything bigger goes through the 12b, tried some 28 no black gold I was given, still have 245 of slab left 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Used Hull High Pheasant 7/8oz no7 for years out of a light Scottish 2.3 inch sxs to great effect, sadly cant seem to find this load anywhere now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shalfordninja33 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 12 hours ago, grahamch said: Used Hull High Pheasant 7/8oz no7 for years out of a light Scottish 2.3 inch sxs to great effect, sadly cant seem to find this load anywhere now? The nearest Hull Cartridge make these days is pro-one 7.5 24gm. They stopped making HP in no7 about 18 months ago. The 26gm RC sipe fibre in italian 7 (uk 6.5) is very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 On 21 November 2019 at 17:19, London Best said: I am not in any way recoil sensitive but over nearly 60 years of shotgunning I have found the 96-1 guideline to be spot on. Any load exceeding this becomes ‘uncomfortable’ to fire repeatedly. This is my own experience. I was once given some 65mm 28 gram 20 bore cartridges. My 5 1/2 lb side lock jumped out of my shoulder with them. English 20 bore game guns were designed to fire 13/16 oz loads (23 gram). No doubt you are referring to 20g SxSs as being under 6lbs whereas most 20g O/Us are 6lbs or over. As previously stated by owners of 20g Beretta O/Us etc. 28g loads are comfortable to use, so why carry a heavier gun round all day when a lighter one will suffice and is your preference. I find that I can use 28g RC Sipes fibre wad 6s in my 20g Macnab Highlander which weighs just 6lbs comfortably all day and if I've done my sums correctly conforms precisely to the 96/1 ratio ruling. They pattern very well through the fixed 1/4 & 1/2 chokes and perform well. I've never experienced recoil issues with Sipes but think that confidence in a gun/cartridge combination also helps, even if only psychologically. OB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Old Boggy said: No doubt you are referring to 20g SxSs as being under 6lbs whereas most 20g O/Us are 6lbs or over. As previously stated by owners of 20g Beretta O/Us etc. 28g loads are comfortable to use, so why carry a heavier gun round all day when a lighter one will suffice and is your preference. I find that I can use 28g RC Sipes fibre wad 6s in my 20g Macnab Highlander which weighs just 6lbs comfortably all day and if I've done my sums correctly conforms precisely to the 96/1 ratio ruling. They pattern very well through the fixed 1/4 & 1/2 chokes and perform well. I've never experienced recoil issues with Sipes but think that confidence in a gun/cartridge combination also helps, even if only psychologically. OB Trouble is as always you can't generalise with shotguns as my Beretta weighs 5lb 9oz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Old Boggy said: No doubt you are referring to 20g SxSs as being under 6lbs whereas most 20g O/Us are 6lbs or over. As previously stated by owners of 20g Beretta O/Us etc. 28g loads are comfortable to use, so why carry a heavier gun round all day when a lighter one will suffice and is your preference. I find that I can use 28g RC Sipes fibre wad 6s in my 20g Macnab Highlander which weighs just 6lbs comfortably all day and if I've done my sums correctly conforms precisely to the 96/1 ratio ruling. They pattern very well through the fixed 1/4 & 1/2 chokes and perform well. I've never experienced recoil issues with Sipes but think that confidence in a gun/cartridge combination also helps, even if only psychologically. OB A lighter gun is very much my preference. My 12 bore game gun weighs 6lb 2oz and is never used with more than 28 gram. McNab Highlander nice gun (if you like o/u), I have two friends who have the 28 bore, both weigh 5lb 14oz and are just about suitable for 28 gram. Neither friend uses 28 gram in them, both saying if they want to shoot a twelve bore load they will use a twelve bore. I couldn’t agree more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darroch Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 For myself, 25g 6's in Lyalvale express works a treat for me. Pigeons, crows, pheasants all come down with these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 9 hours ago, Darroch said: For myself, 25g 6's in Lyalvale express works a treat for me. Pigeons, crows, pheasants all come down with these. Exactly the load/cartridge I buy for my twenty. A proper cartridge for a twenty bore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertt Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 . 1 hour ago, London Best said: Exactly the load/cartridge I buy for my twenty. A proper cartridge for a twenty bore. For your 20 bore . A proper load for mine is 28g, thanks. Each to their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 Sorry! I meant a proper load for a proper twenty bore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) I see little point shooting 28 grams through a 20 bore, I have done in the past, but it was unnecessary. If I want to shoot 28 grams, I'd use a 12. I cant remember what make of cartridges I was using, but 24grams of 6s was more than enough through my 20. Edited December 24, 2019 by Big Mat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 21 hours ago, Darroch said: For myself, 25g 6's in Lyalvale express works a treat for me. Pigeons, crows, pheasants all come down with these. But as I only shoot pigeon with mine, 7s Supremes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 I like the 7’s myself, but if I can’t get ‘em, surprise surprise, 6’s seem to work just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chip000 Posted March 17, 2021 Report Share Posted March 17, 2021 On 23/11/2019 at 21:58, hawkfanz said: 24gram homeloads as good as anything ive ever bought. Hi, do you have load data for your home load that I could have please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wymberley Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 On 24/12/2019 at 09:33, London Best said: I like the 7’s myself, but if I can’t get ‘em, surprise surprise, 6’s seem to work just fine. Just seen this and appreciate that we're over a year out of date. This won't make a huge difference, but on the grounds that every little helps, my current batch of the cartridge in question - the Lyalvale Supreme - at 25g of 7s weigh in at 371/oz - helpful for a open choke shooter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, wymberley said: Just seen this and appreciate that we're over a year out of date. This won't make a huge difference, but on the grounds that every little helps, my current batch of the cartridge in question - the Lyalvale Supreme - at 25g of 7s weigh in at 471/oz - helpful for a open choke shooter. That means the shot must be much smaller than standard English 7’s at 340/oz. Nearer to standard 8 shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, London Best said: That means the shot must be much smaller than standard English 7’s at 340/oz. Nearer to standard 8 shot. If there was such a thing it would be 7&1/4 - 7&1/2 is 400/oz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 38 minutes ago, wymberley said: If there was such a thing it would be 7&1/4 - 7&1/2 is 400/oz Re-read your previous post........you quoted 471/oz not 371! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 15 minutes ago, London Best said: Re-read your previous post........you quoted 471/oz not 371! Ah, well spotted - another all too frequent senior moment! Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, wymberley said: Ah, well spotted - another all too frequent senior moment! Cheers The two greatest dangers on the computer: fat fingers and predictive text! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, London Best said: The two greatest dangers on the computer: fat fingers and predictive text! Not to mention the blasted arthritis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) My late father had one of the G E Lewis so called "light magnum" 20 bores. Side by side boxlock ejector, twenty-six inch barrels, weight about 5lbs 14ozs (from memory) and proofed for 2 3/4" loads which back then were Eley Alphamax with one ounce shot charge. But, yes, mostly he used the then standard Eley "20 Bore" branded cartridge firing 13/16 ounce of shot. Back then too paper case 20 bore cartridges were "pink" or as some would better call it "buff" not yellow. Edited March 18, 2021 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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