charlie b Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 ive got a load of duck turned up on a flooded stubble field it will drain in a day or so do i have to use non toxic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewluke Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 minute ago, charlie b said: ive got a load of duck turned up on a flooded stubble field it will drain in a day or so do i have to use non toxic in England and Wales wildfowl can only be shot with non toxic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie b Posted November 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 i thought it was to be used on wetland were shot could fall into water and farm land was ok to use lead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 You can use a rifle and pick them off the water with lead heads, but not shoot a duck off a puddle that does not exist for 360 days of the year. Stupid laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perazzishot Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, charlie b said: i thought it was to be used on wetland were shot could fall into water and farm land was ok to use lead That is the Scottish Law, and a flooded field would technically constitute shooting over water so non toxic required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, charlie b said: i thought it was to be used on wetland were shot could fall into water and farm land was ok to use lead In England it is NOT where the lead is going BUT the species that it is being used on. 1 minute ago, Perazzishot said: That is the Scottish Law, and a flooded field would technically constitute shooting over water so non toxic required. So, what if you were shooting pheasants or partridge over that field ? How big a puddle constitutes 'water' when being shot over then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie b Posted November 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 just shows ignorance is no excuse going to get some non leady stuff tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 It’s all toxic on contact at 1200 feet per second! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClemFandango Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, strimmer_13 said: You can use a rifle and pick them off the water with lead heads, but not shoot a duck off a puddle that does not exist for 360 days of the year. Stupid laws. lead heads. That would make your neck sore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 Just to confuse matters as far as game shooting go's , we have got some shoots around the Broadland area in Norfolk that come under the SSSI ruling , on these shoots , everything have to be shot with non toxic shot , including Pigeons . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 Not trying to be a smart **** i honestly am not, but everyone keeps saying non tox, i know its commonly used term, but we are not non tox here. its NON LEAD. Always has been. pure copper is toxic as hell itself but its legal. I use it a lot its hard but weighs close to bismuth but can send it fast i like this in some circumstances. But Copper is supper toxic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, marsh man said: Just to confuse matters as far as game shooting go's , we have got some shoots around the Broadland area in Norfolk that come under the SSSI ruling , on these shoots , everything have to be shot with non toxic shot , including Pigeons . Thank you, that's good to know as I'm a regular visitor to Norfolk and am planning to start shooting there next year. Currently only fish in Norfolk, last time I shot there was 2010. Now I'll know to ask when I book. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perazzishot Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 On 28/11/2019 at 20:55, Westley said: In England it is NOT where the lead is going BUT the species that it is being used on. So, what if you were shooting pheasants or partridge over that field ? How big a puddle constitutes 'water' when being shot over then ? Never been tested, but shooting anything over water clays included with lead in Scotland is banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 We have a city park near the house. It’s got a lake that is used as a holding pond for city drinking water. While shooting you can see lead shot falling in the pond. I often wonder is that water is safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perazzishot Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 Wasn't to do with contaminating the water it was to do with wildfowl dabbling in the wild and mud and ingesting lead pellets. The same reason lead shot weights was banned for course fishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Perazzishot said: The same reason lead shot weights was banned for course fishing. That's so true, and the biggest reason it was banned was the legislation was passed while all the fishermen, and angling organisations where arguing amongst themselves who had the biggest dangling bits.🤔🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 On 30/11/2019 at 10:18, Centrepin said: That's so true, and the biggest reason it was banned was the legislation was passed while all the fishermen, and angling organisations where arguing amongst themselves who had the biggest dangling bits.🤔🙄 Whilst the 'Shooters' just had theirs 'chewed off' ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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