bluesj Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just picked up a Weihrauch HW100 kt in 177 to try out, so just wondering what pellets people are using for rats? I've got a tin of AA Diabolo field that I've been playing with on targets but is there any thing else I should look at for live quarry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 The dum dum types or wad cutters are great on rats so long as they're accurate in your barrel at the distance you shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snipper Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Diabolo are as good as anything , hollow points also if accurate in your hw100 Wad cutters are a good option as Figgy said but not all magazines systems will load them smoothly due to a flat head .... Jsb heavies or good old Bisley mags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) A flat head pellet in .177 is a fantastic pellet for rats as long as your not shooting them beyond 25 yds .as the energy will drop off quickly. If you want a bit more range but still the thump you can try the h+n hunter extreems. Excellent on rats .Ps. Ive shot thousands of rats with a .177 pump up pistol at around 10 -15 yds and it killed better than a .22 roundhead at 11.5 fpe . The key to killing em is a fast light pellet that delivers all its energy in as short a distance as possible .= .177 wadcutter Rws hobby /co2 pell being my fave 36 minutes ago, snipper said: Jsb heavies or good old Bisley mags These are the opposite of whats ideal . They will pass straight through the rat delivering little energy to the beast and go on to bounce about inside a barn Making close range ratting in a shed a bit dangerous . Edited December 9, 2019 by Ultrastu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spurs 14 Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 My hw100 is super accurate with Diablo field pellets so that’s what I’ve stuck too on all quarry , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted December 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, spurs 14 said: My hw100 is super accurate with Diablo field pellets so that’s what I’ve stuck too on all quarry , Can't argue with the diabolos being accurate, after just a few shots I was hitting a .22rf end on. I was just wondering if there was something as good but would deliver more of its energy into the target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 The key here is the range your expecting to shoot the rats .An air arms field will be best if your expecting to be shooting at 25 yds + But thats usually a long ratting shot ime. If your gonna shoot them around 15 yds then why not give your self the advantage of a flat head (accuracy should still be fine ) ps air arms do flat head pellet and they are very good (for accuracy and rat splatability ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snipper Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 42 minutes ago, Ultrastu said: A flat head pellet in .177 is a fantastic pellet for rats as long as your not shooting them beyond 25 yds .as the energy will drop off quickly. If you want a bit more range but still the thump you can try the h+n hunter extreems. Excellent on rats .Ps. Ive shot thousands of rats with a .177 pump up pistol at around 10 -15 yds and it killed better than a .22 roundhead at 11.5 fpe . The key to killing em is a fast light pellet that delivers all its energy in as short a distance as possible .= .177 wadcutter Rws hobby /co2 pell being my fave These are the opposite of whats ideal . They will pass straight through the rat delivering little energy to the beast and go on to bounce about inside a barn Making close range ratting in a sed dangerous . Who mentioned close range ..... most .177 will penetrate at close range ..... If your shooting close range with a single shot you can also load the pellets skirt first (obviously not with the hw100) Stick with diabolos and don't over think things ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Its the nature of ratting .having done loads of it for a long time . Shots are usually taken between 5 and 20 yds . Some much closer .i can think of probably only 5 30yd+ shots ever . And ive tried 3 cals , loads of different pellet designs at different energies . And a sub 12 .177 wad cutter is the king imo. It allows you to take shots on a rat in the front half of the body. Not being restricted to head shots .this means that u can hit them walking along beams if your good . Also the safety aspect isnt to be readily disregarded . I swapped from .22 cal pellet as one of the chicken barns i shot in had a lot of ply wood around it .and a shot that went through a rat (which would often jump and run ) would bounce off the ply and around inside the barn.in the dark (using nv) its very scary . The.177s stopped this and i felt comfortable taking shots on rats at up to 3 yds . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted December 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just found a tin of wad cutters in the shed that i'll give a try. Just one more question, how come I can remember where I put a tin of pellets 25 years ago but can remember what I did last week?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Pretty sure a 25 year old tin of pellets will be massively oxidized and wont do your gun or lungs much good . Let alone be accurate . They are likely to damage your oring on the mag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted December 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Ultrastu said: Pretty sure a 25 year old tin of pellets will be massively oxidized and wont do your gun or lungs much good . Let alone be accurate . They are likely to damage your oring on the mag Surprisingly they look as good as new, they are lubed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 I generally use wad cutters, unless im set up firing over a **** heap, doing a long range bit of ratting, then its whatever is most accurate. Ill honestly say, out of all the shooting ive done, ratting is my favourite. I just love splatting the **** 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 27 minutes ago, bluesj said: Surprisingly they look as good as new, they are lubed Whats the brand ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted December 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, Ultrastu said: Whats the brand ? Webley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipdog Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 I only have a 22 and it’s a old spring break barrel but over the last 15 years I have put thousands of pellets, it’s accurate and has killed most things over the years. I keep my air gun shooting simple, domed pellets for everything, they are the best all rounder. If I want to splat a rat at close range I just put one in backwards! Simples 😀😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Pretty much any pellet I've ever fired at a rat has gone through regardless of flat or domed or 177 or 22. They don't seem to have a bone thicker than rizla paper in their body. Just be careful in barns as you can cause damage to the thin roofs or catch one rebounding. Flat heads reduce it but not by much imo. If it's possibly try baiting them, a tin of cat food with holes punched in it does the trick and then you can put it where you like as they can't carry it away. And a head shot rat don't care what hit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipdog Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 33 minutes ago, GingerCat said: Pretty much any pellet I've ever fired at a rat has gone through regardless of flat or domed or 177 or 22. They don't seem to have a bone thicker than rizla paper in their body. Just be careful in barns as you can cause damage to the thin roofs or catch one rebounding. Flat heads reduce it but not by much imo. If it's possibly try baiting them, a tin of cat food with holes punched in it does the trick and then you can put it where you like as they can't carry it away. And a head shot rat don't care what hit it. Good advice, only part I do disagree on is the headshotting bit. I head shot every species with exception of rats and sometimes magpies. Rats always just get a boiler room shot, don’t want to be missing the horrible creatures messing about with a headshot. They don’t travel very far with a shot to front end in my experience. It’s got to be more humane than poison either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Can't ever remember a backward loaded pellet passing through and bouncing around. Make a good mess of ratty though, try the wadcutters see what you think, can always swap to other types on the shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 I watched a short clip of a rat getting shot last week, I seem to watch quite a few, who doesn't like rats getting shot. The rat was shot with a 16 grain pellet from a crossman doing 8ft/lbs the fella said, close range dead, no movement no twitching or helicopter tail. I do find if one pops up and I'm loaded with an accupell I have to have soil behind it because I know the pellets will whizz through, I know the pellet can bounce off concrete. That's why I use pest control when I know I'm ratting. I watched another video and the guy was using a .177 shot a rat on a beam and you could clearly see the hole appear in the corrugated concrete behind it, what was behind the concrete or asbestos I've no idea. 1 hour ago, zipdog said: head shot every species with exception of rats Absolutely, crosshairs on the chest POP! I hit one in the garden last year, it was peeping out so aiming for the head, it pulled back ever so slightly as I shot, took out both eyes and needed a follow up shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manthing Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 The most accurate. Simples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 Crossman Matchpell if they are still made. Like an accupell but flat headed, I've found them great in my hw90 and 95 and a friend tried them in his bsa lightning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) I’ve shot a good few rats down the years with different calibers and pellets. For the last lot I used .22 JSB Exact Jumbo RS out of a sub 12 ft lb springer. These pellets are only 13.43g and give good expansion. I never had so much as a twitch out of any of them. Edited December 14, 2019 by Whitebridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 I like those jumbo rs too. Seem a bit flatter shooting and do the business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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