Scully Posted April 15, 2020 Report Share Posted April 15, 2020 1 minute ago, ShootingEgg said: There should be enough people here being furloughed to be able to do this, why bring in plane load of foreign workers I believe on the news tonight it was stated that fruit farmers had claimed they had advertised for a UK workforce, but not enough people responded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted April 15, 2020 Report Share Posted April 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, Scully said: I believe on the news tonight it was stated that fruit farmers had claimed they had advertised for a UK workforce, but not enough people responded. Unfortunately I am not surprised. We as a nation are lazy and expect everything for nothing these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted April 15, 2020 Report Share Posted April 15, 2020 I will make one comment on this, no just one word. Benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny tim Posted April 15, 2020 Report Share Posted April 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, la bala said: I will make one comment on this, no just one word. Benefits. exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted April 15, 2020 Report Share Posted April 15, 2020 Some furloughed staff are doing the right thing. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-52294856 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted April 15, 2020 Report Share Posted April 15, 2020 30.000 applied to work in lockdown https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/coronavirus-farming-jobs-search-record-feed-nation-campaign-a9458436.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted April 15, 2020 Report Share Posted April 15, 2020 1 hour ago, islandgun said: 30.000 applied to work in lockdown https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/coronavirus-farming-jobs-search-record-feed-nation-campaign-a9458436.html It say 30,000 expressed an interest and 2,000 were being matched to roles. That’s different to 30,000 applied and got roles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted April 15, 2020 Report Share Posted April 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, AVB said: It say 30,000 expressed an interest and 2,000 were being matched to roles. That’s different to 30,000 applied and got roles. Yes as i said, applied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted April 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 hello, why does not DEFRA place and advert on TV, Britain Needs You, remember those posters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 8 hours ago, AVB said: It say 30,000 expressed an interest and 2,000 were being matched to roles. That’s different to 30,000 applied and got roles. That's just mad, how do they only give 2,000 jobs.. 30,000 applied so they should of been hired surely. Media makes out we have to use foreign people.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted April 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, ShootingEgg said: That's just mad, how do they only give 2,000 jobs.. 30,000 applied so they should of been hired surely. Media makes out we have to use foreign people.. hello, i agree, if 250,000 can volunteer to help the NHS, the 30,000 who applied in UK will get paid should have been given work, there is a farm i often see where up to a hundred or more foreign nationals working, now DEFRA is flying in 3000 Romania pickers, how will that help this lockdown, i cannot see them adhere to any Government rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 11 hours ago, ShootingEgg said: Some furloughed staff are doing the right thing. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-52294856 Great news. I have just spoken to a local firm here that wants to keep working and can do safely with workers in total isolation. Staff have said no they would rather be furloughed and sit idle at home. Boss is ripping his hair out. 1 hour ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, why does not DEFRA place and advert on TV, Britain Needs You, remember those posters Why does the govt not insist that local furloughed workers do the jobs? Logistical nightmare either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted April 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, oowee said: Great news. I have just spoken to a local firm here that wants to keep working and can do safely with workers in total isolation. Staff have said no they would rather be furloughed and sit idle at home. Boss is ripping his hair out. Why does the govt not insist that local furloughed workers do the jobs? Logistical nightmare either way. hello, who would want to own a company with people like that ?? i do not agree with your other comment but if DEFRA did a advertising campaign i am sure they would get enough people at least for this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) One of my permissions is a farm in Margate that’s an airgunning paradise, rabbits, pigeon, crows, magpies and the processing plant right next to dozens of prefab cabins that the farmer has provided for the foreign workforce complete with cooking facilities, beds and gas canisters outside. Somehow I don’t think the ones complaining about all our jobs being stolen would be too keen on filling these vacancies. Oddly enough whenever I’ve offered any of the slain to the workers they’ve turned them down. Edited April 16, 2020 by Hamster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPhantom Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 43 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, who would want to own a company with people like that ?? i do not agree with your other comment but if DEFRA did a advertising campaign i am sure they would get enough people at least for this year I agree with your comment to some extent and sympathize with the employer, but maybe it is the furlough system that is flawed. To be perfectly honest if I had the option to not work for 80% of my salary I would seriously consider it! Maybe I'm misunderstanding how the system works but I thought if the employer is able to keep working safely within the guidelines, then he wouldn't have the option to furlough his staff? A minefield nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 14 hours ago, Scully said: I believe on the news tonight it was stated that fruit farmers had claimed they had advertised for a UK workforce, but not enough people responded. That's simply not true IMO, my stepdaughter's boyfriend has been laid off and is looking for work. He has been trying to find these farm jobs without success. Most enquiries haven't even been replied to. And yet, on the news this morning a flight of 180 fruit pickers from Romania is arriving at Stanstead airport this morning. That wasn't just decided overnight. Sounds a bit fishy to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Vince Green said: That's simply not true IMO, my stepdaughter's boyfriend has been laid off and is looking for work. He has been trying to find these farm jobs without success. Most enquiries haven't even been replied to. And yet, on the news this morning a flight of 180 fruit pickers from Romania is arriving at Stanstead airport this morning. That wasn't just decided overnight. Sounds a bit fishy to me Fair enough. Makes no difference to me really, I’m just repeating what I heard on the news. I hope the lad in question finds work soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted April 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Vince Green said: That's simply not true IMO, my stepdaughter's boyfriend has been laid off and is looking for work. He has been trying to find these farm jobs without success. Most enquiries haven't even been replied to. And yet, on the news this morning a flight of 180 fruit pickers from Romania is arriving at Stanstead airport this morning. That wasn't just decided overnight. Sounds a bit fishy to me hello, he can phone the NFU help line 0370 845 8458 they might help, they were going to put a list of farms wanting Labour so may be helpful, they also have details of companies looking for people to do farm work so will have details of web sites and phone details, and yes i agree it does sound fishy Edited April 16, 2020 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) http://hopslaboursolutions.com/seasonal-work/ https://www.concordiavolunteers.org.uk/feed-the-nation All April positions are filled, but May onwards may be available. That's if they haven't already gone abroad to fill them as well! Edited April 16, 2020 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, he can phone the NFU help line 0370 845 8458 they might help, they were going to put a list of farms wanting Labour so may be helpful, they also have details of companies looking for people to do farm work so will have details of web sites and phone details, and yes i agree it does sound fishy That's who he contacted and he's been following up the leads they gave him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted April 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 36 minutes ago, Vince Green said: That's who he contacted and he's been following up the leads they gave him ok hope all goes well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 Its a common ploy that many companies use (my wife used to work in HR for a City firm). You advertise in the UK but then claim you can't fill the role (never had any intention) then get dispensation for a overseas visa and get somebody cheaper (or in the case of labourers a better work ethic). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Vince Green said: That's who he contacted and he's been following up the leads they gave him There are plenty of jobs for fruit pickers from the various websites I have been looking at, can he move up to Scotland as they are asking for workers from may onwards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, AVB said: Its a common ploy that many companies use (my wife used to work in HR for a City firm). You advertise in the UK but then claim you can't fill the role (never had any intention) then get dispensation for a overseas visa and get somebody cheaper (or in the case of labourers a better work ethic). A lot of the websites are agencies that require a fee to register with them. Sometimes a big fee. The ones that aren't, like a place in Mevagissy, he could walk to, just said leave your details and we will get back to you if we need you but many don't even reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 11 hours ago, oowee said: Great news. I have just spoken to a local firm here that wants to keep working and can do safely with workers in total isolation. Staff have said no they would rather be furloughed and sit idle at home. Boss is ripping his hair out Mate of mine has a electrical company, his staff did this, turned round and said they would not work, wanted furlough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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