chrisjpainter Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 Are the regs different from here to the US or are the cars actually built differently? We've been trying to find the towing capacity for my partner's 2L TDi 4x4 VW Tiguan. Some sites are saying 2200kg, others 2200lb and it seems the American sites are all in pounds, thus stating less than half the towing capacity. We're hoping for a 2200kgs, or else she's already been pulling over the max! The car feels fine with it though, so I'm thinking it's the heavier weight. Anyone got any words of wisdom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adzyvilla Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 I should think it will be the kgs figure, around two tonnes sounds about right for that car. Parkers guide will have all the figures for that car, including the braked and unbraked towing weights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 Believe mine was in the log book, as my mates navara can't legally tow as much as a xc90, which shocked us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 Caravan club say trailer 75% of car weight but can go 1 to 1 with experience. The other thing of concern which you must find is the max draw bar weight for your car. Some cars due to rear suspension design is silly low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) As I understand it (and happy to be proved wrong) Any thing from 1500 to 2800kg depending on the model. have a look on the vin plate it should tell you the weights then its just a case of subtracting one from the other! or it should be but some manufactures don't make it easy and may no give a train weight or will give you a unladened weight and a GTW so you take the first ad fuel, driver, shopping etc the take that from the GTW. then you might have it but you have to take the gross weight of the trailer in to account, your car may be 1800kg and have a GTW of say 4500kg but if your trailer is rated at a gross weigth of 3500kg you cant tow it even with nothing in it because the gross permissible weights don't and up! Hope that helps 🙂 Clear as mud I know 🤪 Take a look here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYHnZFwWH-8 I know its aussy bit it will give you an idea of what you need to know and how to work things out and his videos are funny Edited July 12, 2020 by bluesj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wascal Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 find the vin plate under the bonnet ! Looks similar to this 1st line (1980kg) Mass vehicle weight 2nd line (3280kg) Max combined tow weight 3/4 lines max axle weights subtract 1980 from 3280 gives 1300kg tow weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 1 hour ago, chrisjpainter said: Are the regs different from here to the US or are the cars actually built differently? Yes, European type approval is radically different from US DoT requirements 1 hour ago, chrisjpainter said: We've been trying to find the towing capacity for my partner's 2L TDi 4x4 VW Tiguan You don't state what vintage it is, but http://www.towingcapacity.co.uk/car-make-model/volkswagen/volkswagen-tiguan/ appears to be pretty exhaustive. I'd surprised if something based on a passat has anything like a 2 Te tow capacity. If you don't trust that source, look at your V5 (logbook), 2nd page, top right, section O. If that's blank, to avoid any doubt, speak to your local VW dealer, and quote the VIN at them. Whilst you're at it, get the max permissable down force on the towball and load your trailer appropriately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted July 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 1 hour ago, udderlyoffroad said: Yes, European type approval is radically different from US DoT requirements You don't state what vintage it is, but http://www.towingcapacity.co.uk/car-make-model/volkswagen/volkswagen-tiguan/ appears to be pretty exhaustive. I'd surprised if something based on a passat has anything like a 2 Te tow capacity. If you don't trust that source, look at your V5 (logbook), 2nd page, top right, section O. If that's blank, to avoid any doubt, speak to your local VW dealer, and quote the VIN at them. Whilst you're at it, get the max permissable down force on the towball and load your trailer appropriately. Boom. Well played, sir, well played indeed. Towing of 2200kg. That agreed with towingcapacity.co.uk, which was pleasing. Thanks, chaps. Question answered! Pigeonwatch wins again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 I have just checked v5 for our two vehicles. 2009 Defender states 3500kg as I expected. 2017 Discovery Sport is left blank, no towing weight stated. I wonder if the practice has been dropped, given the difference in age of these examples? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverforget Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 Don’t you just take the two weights away from each other on the door plate, what is left is ya towing limit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricko Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 I always remember my ex army series III Landrover: 2 tonnes unbraked, 4 tonnes braked ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 On 22/07/2020 at 10:43, Ricko said: I always remember my ex army series III Landrover: 2 tonnes unbraked, 4 tonnes braked ! All trailers designed to be over 750kg must by law have brakes so unsure where you get 2 tonnes unbraked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 A good friend of mine was stopped by the police for towing his caravan with a brand new Mercedes, they said it wasn't made to tow that weight. Yet Mercedes sold him this as a car he asked to tow this weight. He had a nightmare getting money back and returnig the car to Mercedes as they were adiment it was the correct weight size etc to tow legally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 5 hours ago, SPARKIE said: All trailers designed to be over 750kg must by law have brakes so unsure where you get 2 tonnes unbraked. That is how Land Rovers were rated before the 750kg law was introduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricko Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 On 18/08/2020 at 02:44, SPARKIE said: All trailers designed to be over 750kg must by law have brakes so unsure where you get 2 tonnes unbraked. We're going back a few years, it was an ex-army 'One tonne' LWB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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