marmite Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 HI AS ANYONE GOT A GOOD ELECTRIC COLLER FOR A LAB OR KNOW WHERE I CAN GET ONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjaferret Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 For a lab? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob85 Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 I thought the law was banning the use of electric collars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr gen Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 This company sell a good range. https://www.electric-fence.co.uk/dog.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douburr Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 10 hours ago, Rob85 said: I thought the law was banning the use of electric collars? If they are Banned eBay are breaking the Law because there are still plenty for sell on there ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob85 Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 49 minutes ago, Douburr said: If they are Banned eBay are breaking the Law because there are still plenty for sell on there ?? I didn't mean they were already banned, I thought the legislation was underway to introduce a ban on them because back in 2018 the government had already backed banning their use. I suppose that doesn't mean they won't do a full U turn now that the government has a new prime minister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 31 minutes ago, Rob85 said: I didn't mean they were already banned, I thought the legislation was underway to introduce a ban on them because back in 2018 the government had already backed banning their use. I suppose that doesn't mean they won't do a full U turn now that the government has a new prime minister. It never happened. They are banned in Wales, and possibly Scotland I believe. For anyone who has actually seen and used (a good quality) one, you’ll see it’s not a torture device but a tool that can be used to prompt in training. I used one on myself, it went from 1-127 and I was well above 60+ before I could feel it anymore than a tingle like getting pins and needles. I would not trust a cheap £30 Chinese made one as they are cheap for a reason, and have the possibility of going horribly wrong. As we know in dog training timing is everything. I would look at the Dogtra stuff, expect to pay up-to £200+ or more for a high quality unit. However I would be very very aware and informed of how to use it, what exactly your trying to achieve and how the collar may be interpreted by the dog. For sorting issues like sheep chasing or similar I’m not sure you could get a better tool, although used in that context they certainly aren’t used as a prompt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 We have a cintronella, vibrate and bleep one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmite Posted July 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 hi all have managed to get one second hand .the reason i am trying it is having trouble with dog running in when going to shoot have pegged him but no good he has just started this and had advise form a trainer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snipper Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 Must be a lazy **** trainer then , Should be banned end of , training a dog through fear is never the right way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 15 hours ago, snipper said: Must be a lazy **** trainer then , Should be banned end of , training a dog through fear is never the right way Absolutely agreed, totally unnecessary for the above issue, op should find a new trainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnie Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 Start with a 30m check lead, dog needs to know it's definitely doing wrong before a collar is used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 The above responses are correct. The only time an electric collar should be used is if the dog does something when it thinks you are not there. Running in is not a reason, you are literally at its side. I’ve seen them used on grouse Moor when dogs (which are working 100s of metres away) worry sheep. Even then I think it is lazy, livestock training needs to be done when a pup is young enough for you to catch it should the worse happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 This is not the way to go. A dog that runs in demonstrates that you have not got the basics right and introduced the dog to game and shoot days too soon. You go back to basics and the minute the dog moves you make it very clear it is not acceptable. I recommend using a paracord long line. It is light enough for the dog not to feel it but strong enough to stop the dog if it runs in and you can make it clear what is expected. Go back to basics, take your time.....and change your trainer. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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