Capt Christopher Jones Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 hour ago, oowee said: 👍👍👍 ^^^^^ this. We need to get away from being led by T.... A cross party or at least cross nation group would have us all on the same page. Decent enforcement and a cause we can believe in not different rules depending on where you are, what you do for a job. When our donkey was on yesterday I just could not help myself laughing at so much carp being spouted until I remembered that we are all on the receiving end of it. I bet he now wishes he could put the clock back to just before he posted his job application Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 hour ago, JohnfromUK said: There was a vote on PR in 2011 and it was soundly defeated. No there wasn't, and no it wasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Newbie to this said: No there wasn't, and no it wasn't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_United_Kingdom_Alternative_Vote_referendum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 minute ago, JohnfromUK said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_United_Kingdom_Alternative_Vote_referendum beat me to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Christopher Jones Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 minute ago, JohnfromUK said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_United_Kingdom_Alternative_Vote_referendum The proposal to introduce AV was rejected by 67.9% of voters on a national turnout of 42%. 1 minute ago, JohnfromUK said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_United_Kingdom_Alternative_Vote_referendum The proposal to introduce AV was rejected by 67.9% of voters on a national turnout of 42%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_United_Kingdom_Alternative_Vote_referendum 5 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: beat me to it You may want to read up on the proposed system, it was most definitely NOT PR. Edited November 1, 2020 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_United_Kingdom_Alternative_Vote_referendum 28% did not want it 14% did and the other 58% did not care either way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_United_Kingdom_Alternative_Vote_referendum Proposed AV systemEdit SystemEdit Under the alternative vote system proposed in the referendum, voters would still be electing just one candidate associated with one geographic constituency. Instead of simply voting for one candidate on the ballot paper (with an 'X'), the voter would instead be asked to rank one or more of the candidates in order of preference. If after first preferences have been counted, no one candidate has a majority of the votes cast, then the bottom candidate will be eliminated and votes for that candidate are transferred to each voter's next available preference. The process continues repeatedly until one candidate reaches a majority and wins.[29][196] The system proposed was a form of "optional preferential voting", in that voters would not be obliged to rank every candidate in order of preference in order to cast a valid vote. Ballot instructionsEdit Schedule 10 to the Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Act 2011 proposed to amend Paragraph (5) of Rule 29 of Schedule 1 to the Representation of the People Act 1983 (the "Parliamentary Election Rules"), so that the instructions to the voter displayed in ballot boxes would be changed from an instruction to vote for only one candidate, to read:[197] "Remember—use 1, 2, 3 etc at this election—this is an election using the alternative vote system. Put the number 1 next to the name of the candidate who is your first choice (or your only choice, if you want to vote for only one candidate). You can also put the number 2 next to your second choice, 3 next to your third choice, and so on. You can mark as few or as many choices (up to the number of candidates) as you wish. Do not use the same number more than once. Put no other mark on the ballot paper, or your vote may not be counted." This was repealed by the Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Act 2011 (Repeal of Alternative Vote Provisions) Order 2011.[198] Most definitely NOT PR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 if this starts to cause REAL suffering joe public won’t be using a vote to change things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 minute ago, clangerman said: if this starts to cause REAL suffering joe public won’t be using a vote to change things This is causing real suffering and we have not started to take the tough choices yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: Most definitely NOT PR I stand corrected. If I remember right - the vote was part of the LibDems coalition terms and was for replacement of First Past the Post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 Just now, oowee said: This is causing real suffering and we have not started to take the tough choices yet. i would say more hard times at the moment but it’s not far of one old boy was so angry at tesco’s greed he offered to bounce the biscuits of the cashiers head keep giving joe public the finger with non stop greed he’s going to bite it of eventually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treetree Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 4 hours ago, clangerman said: if this starts to cause REAL suffering joe public won’t be using a vote to change things The British public will meekly go long and swallow whatever unpalatable nonsense they re told to swallow next. It pains me to say it, but the past 6 months have shown it to be true. Just look at this site; you literally have some people begging to be locked down again, and those willing to denounce and grass people up for living a free life in numbers the Stasi would have been proud of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 The Welsh couple in OH’s mother’s holiday let, whom arrived at the weekend, have been told they must vacate the property before the English lockdown starts, which OH’s mother is very pleased about. She felt they tried to deceive her when they informed her they were from the South West. South West Wales as it turned out. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 16 hours ago, treetree said: The British public will meekly go long and swallow whatever unpalatable nonsense they re told to swallow next. It pains me to say it, but the past 6 months have shown it to be true. Just look at this site; you literally have some people begging to be locked down again, and those willing to denounce and grass people up for living a free life in numbers the Stasi would have been proud of. I am inclined to agree and it disappoints me gravely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmite Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 On 31/10/2020 at 17:20, AVB said: It’s ******* depressing. I am going to do everything I can to defy the rules. Boris has lost the plot. I hope he gets ousted ASAP and replaced by Rishi. to right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 21 hours ago, oowee said: This is causing real suffering and we have not started to take the tough choices yet. I don't believe we are even really seeing what the damage and suffering is yet, although some are feeling it very hard already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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