Raja Clavata Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 Without going off topic I would like to think / hope the NATS system is pretty robust too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 57 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: Without going off topic I would like to think / hope the NATS system is pretty robust too. They read tea leaves for that 😂 Has had its problems and was massively over budget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Gordon R said: discobob- well done. I believe yours was the exception to the rule. Yes second that. For any man making their wife smile is quite an achievement. 🏆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 Quote Without going off topic I would like to think / hope the NATS system is pretty robust too. I trust that computer systems for the Forces are a cut above those for the NHS, DWP, HMRC, which are poor, to be charitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 I was referring to Civil Air Traffic Control but yes my understanding is that the Forces systems are generally more robust and have several more layers of security around them. Interesting though even the military is not immune to pressures over costs and timescales - this news caused quite a stir across all sectors of embedded systems: https://gcn.com/articles/2020/01/07/af-kubernetes-f16.aspx It's basically a F16 running something akin to Amazon Web Services. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 I can definitely see the advantages in this - with kubernetes you build devices using operating systems, code, functionality (database/web/etc..) that are highly slimmed down. So instead of having a server just doing web - physical or virtual - you have a very slimmed down virtual machine that only has what is unique to that instance running in it - it is a form of virtualisation but comes at it from a totally different direction than VMWare and Hyper-V etc and I can see the benefits of running it in something like this where the legacy approaches are just not fit for purpose nowadays - and creates an onboard ecosystem that can be quickly updated without costing millions in overhauls per Plane. If it does take off (Get it ) I can see it being very successful. The system I done for the MOD was life'd for 10 years and has since been replaced by another solution - and from what I have heard that one isn't up to the job that the old system was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted November 23, 2020 Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 On 17/11/2020 at 12:19, Walker570 said: Apart from Hancock stating that the lockdown will continue after the 2nd of December although Boris gave a solemn pledge that it would not and then stating that he would make it mandatory that every 'citizen' ... did you read 1984 ..... would be vacinated even against their will, makes me worry about where this country is going. Everyone I have spoken with this morning is furious at the performance of the Government and all said they would not comply with either of the aforementioned proposals. Ok ... so both assertions are proved poppycock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted November 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Smokersmith said: Ok ... so both assertions are proved poppycock. Like most of the stuff coming out of No 10 lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 10 hours ago, Walker570 said: Like most of the stuff coming out of the BBC and MSM lately. There corrected it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Walker570 said: Like most of the stuff coming out of No 10 lately. I don't agree, they are doing a pretty good job to me, not perfect but nothing ever is Edited November 24, 2020 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, Vince Green said: I don't agree they are doing a pretty good job to me, not perfect but nothing ever is /\ This. The UK was always massively exposed to a virus like this with high population density, very high international footfall, an high average age, fairly high incidence of high risk conditions/fragile population, and a culture of close indoor gatherings etc. I note that Sweden, which took a different very 'relaxed' path - and initially seemed to be doing quite well, is now getting into trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 31 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: I note that Sweden, which took a different very 'relaxed' path - and initially seemed to be doing quite well, is now getting into trouble. Theres a section of the MSM that would like you to think that, but the stats dont back it up https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden Theres also a section of the MSM that when you give them those stats, come up with explanations like 'Swedens data is 40 days behind everyone elses , so we need to wait and see' or other such BS. Dont forget Sweden took that relaxed path, and its stats per capita are little different or perhaps better in some instances than ours..without lockdown, and with mask use 'not advised' Draw your own conclusions from that, rather than that 'certain section' of the MSM ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 There are always going to be two camps of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Rewulf said: Dont forget Sweden took that relaxed path, and its stats per capita are little different or perhaps better in some instances than ours..without lockdown Sweden is 10 million people - UK is 67 million. - 6.7 to one ratio Sweden has 208,000 cases = 20,800 cases per million - UK is 1.5 million = 22,400 per million (similar). Sweden has 6400 deaths = 640 per million - and UK has 64,000 = 955 per million - so yes, their rate is better than ours - but they are now bringing in some 'lockdown style' restrictions because (presumably) they are concerned about rising case numbers and facilities to treat the ill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 10 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: Sweden is 10 million people - UK is 67 million. - 6.7 to one ratio Sweden has 208,000 cases = 20,800 cases per million - UK is 1.5 million = 22,400 per million (similar). Sweden has 6400 deaths = 640 per million - and UK has 64,000 = 955 per million - so yes, their rate is better than ours - but they are now bringing in some 'lockdown style' restrictions because (presumably) they are concerned about rising case numbers and facilities to treat the ill. They have seen a spike , of that there is no doubt, which is an expected part of the winter death toll, be it from colds/flu/covid. It happens in virtually every European country every year, but even as the projected fear factor subsides , the pressure from the media and the outcry from opposition parties, talking of 'surges' and calling for 'harsh new measures' Sweden has reacted...by limiting restaurant diners to 8 per table , and asking the pubs to stop serving at 10 pm ! The horror. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted November 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 As above, it would be more honest if full death details where released in order that the public could see just how the corvid deaths fit with normal winter deaths from other illnesses. There is constant push of the FEAR factor. I read this morning that there are more deaths in this last month from standard flu than from corvid but no HEADLINES on that fact, just about an inch of small print in the far corner of a newspaper. Get out there and enjoy yourselves it ain't a rehearsal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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