Gordon R Posted November 26, 2020 Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 (edited) There is a gun advertised by one of the members on here. Bargain, but can't travel to pick up and would have to travel to an RFD or the RFD would have to travel. I decided to wait until things have settled down. However, my eldest and his wife were considering another pup - they have a Bernese Mountain dog. You can't travel to see the pup and I presume the breeder could not travel to you. I wouldn't buy one unseen, but any litter already born or due in the near future would cause problems. I can't imagine many people placing a deposit on a pup they had not seen and probably wouldn't see until April next year, when the lockdown is to be reviewed. Whilst it isn't the end of the world for my son, I felt a bit sorry for anyone with a litter of pups, as no-one will be buying six to eight month old pups. Edited November 26, 2020 by Gordon R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted November 26, 2020 Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 A lot of breeders are doing showings by video. We put a deposit on a pup a few months ago having seen it in video although we did see it face to face twice before we finally picked him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted November 26, 2020 Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 Bought my last pup based on photos and video. Knew the breeder and collected at ten weeks. I am puzzled as to why you can't collect before April? None of the breeders I know are having trouble selling pups. Even have couriers collecting and delivering if you pay for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 Dave - in tier 3 - travel only where essential. Collecting a pup isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted November 26, 2020 Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 52 minutes ago, Gordon R said: Dave - in tier 3 - travel only where essential. Collecting a pup isn't. Essential is subjective. You could easily classify it as animal welfare. I would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted November 26, 2020 Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Gordon R said: Dave - in tier 3 - travel only where essential. Collecting a pup isn't. Appreciate the point, mother lives in Accrington. Hopefully you will be out before April though. good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted November 27, 2020 Report Share Posted November 27, 2020 On 26/11/2020 at 18:24, Gordon R said: Dave - in tier 3 - travel only where essential. Collecting a pup isn't. And yet hundreds of people are doing it every day. Scammers are also taking advantage of it, by stealing peoples fog photos online, advertising litters that never even existed and taking £500+ deposits from people. I think one fake add took 80+ deposits of £500. If I wanted another pup I would get it off someone I know, and on firm recommendation of people who’d seen both dam and sire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2020 Quote If I wanted another pup I would get it off someone I know, and on firm recommendation of people who’d seen both dam and sire. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWildfowler Posted November 27, 2020 Report Share Posted November 27, 2020 If click and collect is allowed surely you can go collect a pup too? As click and collect was only for non essential items Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennett Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 12 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: And yet hundreds of people are doing it every day. Scammers are also taking advantage of it, by stealing peoples fog photos online, advertising litters that never even existed and taking £500+ deposits from people. I think one fake add took 80+ deposits of £500. If I wanted another pup I would get it off someone I know, and on firm recommendation of people who’d seen both dam and sire. At the price dogs are at the moment, and with realistically no chance of the price coming back down, the two dogs I have now are the last I'll ever be able to have. Which is sad, as I enjoy working them as much as shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 Off topic but chap next door but one to me just sold a caravan and the bloke who fetched it traveled 75 mile to pick it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, kennett said: At the price dogs are at the moment, and with realistically no chance of the price coming back down, the two dogs I have now are the last I'll ever be able to have. Which is sad, as I enjoy working them as much as shooting. Don't worry, unfortunately the surge in dogs will end with the Covid pandemic when people go back to work and decide they haven't time anymore, the rehoming centres will be bursting at the seams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 4 hours ago, 12gauge82 said: Don't worry, unfortunately the surge in dogs will end with the Covid pandemic when people go back to work and decide they haven't time anymore, the rehoming centres will be bursting at the seams. So people keep saying... yet to see it happen so far. It might though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 5 hours ago, harrycatcat1 said: Off topic but chap next door but one to me just sold a caravan and the bloke who fetched it traveled 75 mile to pick it up Quite. It went on around the village also, right through the last lockdown. It’s just a hop skip and a jump over the tops to the NE, from here. Far too handy at times. 5 hours ago, kennett said: At the price dogs are at the moment, and with realistically no chance of the price coming back down, the two dogs I have now are the last I'll ever be able to have. Which is sad, as I enjoy working them as much as shooting. My pup is now six months old, from working stock and I know both owners of the two dogs from where mine came. I was charged 500 quid which I was quite happy to pay, but someone local to me was advertising cockapoos at 3.5k each......for a mongrel! They’ve all gone so whether they got the asking price or not I don’t know. Ridiculous price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennett Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 32 minutes ago, Scully said: Quite. It went on around the village also, right through the last lockdown. It’s just a hop skip and a jump over the tops to the NE, from here. Far too handy at times. My pup is now six months old, from working stock and I know both owners of the two dogs from where mine came. I was charged 500 quid which I was quite happy to pay, but someone local to me was advertising cockapoos at 3.5k each......for a mongrel! They’ve all gone so whether they got the asking price or not I don’t know. Ridiculous price. My wife works in a vet's, last week a client came in with a French Bulldog pup. All the paperwork was "in the post" and it has several underlying health problems, all for the bargain price of £8000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, kennett said: My wife works in a vet's, last week a client came in with a French Bulldog pup. All the paperwork was "in the post" and it has several underlying health problems, all for the bargain price of £8000 Amazing what people will pay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Scully said: ...but someone local to me was advertising cockapoos at 3.5k each......for a mongrel! They’ve all gone so whether they got the asking price or not I don’t know. Ridiculous price. Here’s the thing, as much as we think it’s ridiculous, if he sold the whole litter for £3,500 per pup, it can’t be as mad as we think it is 🤷♂️. I think the price of pups will come down mostly because people will start going out again once lock down ends and simply won’t have the silly sums of money sat in their bank accounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 8 hours ago, kennett said: At the price dogs are at the moment, and with realistically no chance of the price coming back down, the two dogs I have now are the last I'll ever be able to have. Which is sad, as I enjoy working them as much as shooting. Same here kennett , I have also owned Labradors all my shooting life , I accept each puppy you buy now have gone up from the last one you bought , but there would be no way I could afford £2000 + now I no longer work and just rely on savings and the state pension , still if the worse come to the worse I am sure my two grand children won't mind me spending there inheritance , or would they ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 25 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: Here’s the thing, as much as we think it’s ridiculous, if he sold the whole litter for £3,500 per pup, it can’t be as mad as we think it is 🤷♂️. Indeed. A local ‘keeper sold an entire litter of Lab’s for 15k, mind you, they were all from excellent working stock with impeccable pedigrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, Scully said: Indeed. A local ‘keeper sold an entire litter of Lab’s for 15k, mind you, they were all from excellent working stock with impeccable pedigrees. How many did he have? Keeper I know says the fact he has 2 lab bitches in pup is the only thing that is going to save him from going under this year. One litter KC Reg - £2,500 a pup, one litter non-KC reg - £2,000 a pup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: How many did he have? Keeper I know says the fact he has 2 lab bitches in pup is the only thing that is going to save him from going under this year. One litter KC Reg - £2,500 a pup, one litter non-KC reg - £2,000 a pup. I honestly don’t know how many there were. I’ll be speaking to him in the next couple of weeks or so, so will try to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennett Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 21 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: How many did he have? Keeper I know says the fact he has 2 lab bitches in pup is the only thing that is going to save him from going under this year. One litter KC Reg - £2,500 a pup, one litter non-KC reg - £2,000 a pup. Friend of mine made a years wage from one litter of Lab pups, even allowing for docking etc it's still a tidy earner. Which is fuelling the rise in dog thefts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 On 26/11/2020 at 18:24, Gordon R said: Dave - in tier 3 - travel only where essential. Collecting a pup isn't. Trouble is nobody seem to be following your commendable standards of behaviour Gordon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 Vince - I don't wish to appear saintly, but notifying Firearms that I had acquired another shotgun should alert them to my travel history.😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbyduck Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 On 28/11/2020 at 19:06, kennett said: Friend of mine made a years wage from one litter of Lab pups, even allowing for docking etc it's still a tidy earner. Which is fuelling the rise in dog thefts Docking ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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