PhilR Posted January 6, 2021 Report Share Posted January 6, 2021 Looking at my postcode there's been 9 deaths in the period, 7 in April and 2 in May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted January 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Mungler said: Quack on the radio today saying modern drugs of the last 30 years have stretched life expectancy (albeit medically / artificially) and this is the elastic band snapping back. Looking at the post code checker for my area, there’s been 19 deaths across the whole period and I couldn’t tell you how many thousand chimney pots are in the post code area. I would guess more deaths through heart attack / strokes. Looking at the death rate per 1,000 population it appears that deaths have been increasing since 2013. It came as a surprise to me. regarding the map of deaths each area is not in fact a postcode area it is what is called Super Output Area which attempts to break down the U.K. into areas of equal population so in towns the areas will be relatively small, in the country relatively large. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted January 6, 2021 Report Share Posted January 6, 2021 24 minutes ago, AVB said: Looking at the death rate per 1,000 population it appears that deaths have been increasing since 2013. It came as a surprise to me. Could that not be down to the numbers of older people who have got old and died? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted January 6, 2021 Report Share Posted January 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mice! said: Could that not be down to the numbers of older people who have got old and died? Baby boomers with their post war diets, exercise and access to the NHS pushing up the big age numbers, and the next generation behind them being less fit / healthy and with worse lifestyles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted January 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2021 14 minutes ago, Mungler said: Baby boomers with their post war diets, exercise and access to the NHS pushing up the big age numbers, and the next generation behind them being less fit / healthy and with worse lifestyles. Using 82 as average age, people dying in 2013 would have been born in 1931 so I would have expected the decline to come later if that were the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Neal Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) How many 'flu deaths are being recorded this winter?https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/influenzadeathsfor2020 Quote Provisional data is available from March – June 2020 grouped for both "Influenza and Pneumonia" (J09 – J18) in Table 5 of Deaths involving COVID-19, England and Wales. Please note, due to the decrease in COVID-19 deaths, this publication will not be updated moving forward. If I've read this correctly, they've basically given up distinguishing between covid and 'flu and are just calling it all covid? Or am I not interpreting this correctly? Edited January 7, 2021 by Jim Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 Everything is getting a covid tag, die in a car accident you died of covid. Only way to know is average of last two years then the increase for 2020, it will give a rough figure more accurate than most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) on the GOV postcode checker we have had 29 deaths in the past 7 days Daily summary | Pinner Central (data.gov.uk) Edited January 9, 2021 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 The stats today are quite interesting; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9137623/Covid-deaths-England-Wales.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted January 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, JohnfromUK said: The stats today are quite interesting; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9137623/Covid-deaths-England-Wales.html But rate per 1,000 population is still lower than all years up to 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, AVB said: But rate per 1,000 population is still lower than all years up to 2008. Not sure how that fits with this "The mortality rate - deaths per 1,000 people - surged by 12.1 per cent in 2020, the highest level since 1940" (the third bullet point at the top of the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted January 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: Not sure how that fits with this "The mortality rate - deaths per 1,000 people - surged by 12.1 per cent in 2020, the highest level since 1940" (the third bullet point at the top of the article. The rate of increase was the highest since 1940. It’s sensationalism reporting. this shows a better picture of it Edited January 12, 2021 by AVB Added graph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 On 03/01/2021 at 13:58, figgy said: In my area one is a care home in the village high street. The other if correct is just one house Not sure how this would be that significant, we know care homes are hotspots. The dots do not denote the location of the death but rather the area in which they occurred. In my area all three deaths are shown in the middle of the lake. Maybe they were Viking funerals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 29 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: Not sure how that fits with this "The mortality rate - deaths per 1,000 people - surged by 12.1 per cent in 2020, the highest level since 1940" (the third bullet point at the top of the article. A figure of 100000 excess deaths would equate to roughly the average yearly total deaths for UK civilians and military for the 2nd WW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 2 hours ago, AVB said: It’s sensationalism reporting. I have to admit it has been worded in a rather misleading way (well - misled me anyway!). Nonetheless, the hospitalisation and deaths right now are bad, both here and in many other countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 Did I hear correctly , on the news tonight they reported that one in thirty people in London had the virus ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, islandgun said: Did I hear correctly , on the news tonight they reported that one in thirty people in London had the virus ! Yes, 1 in 20 in some parts of the Capital! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 Last week it was 1:50 nationally with 1:40 in London. Things are getting much worse, expect a spike in deaths. And we were so close to the vaccine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 57 minutes ago, WalkedUp said: Last week it was 1:50 nationally with 1:40 in London. Things are getting much worse, expect a spike in deaths. And we were so close to the vaccine. Yes and the effect of Christmas and New Year hasn't had time to show up in the figures yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Yes, 1 in 20 in some parts of the Capital! Jesus.. Yet there are some whingeing about having to wear a mask to the shop..😟 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, islandgun said: Jesus.. Yet there are some whingeing about having to wear a mask to the shop..😟 Yes indeed, strange how people perceive this pandemic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted January 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Vince Green said: Yes and the effect of Christmas and New Year hasn't had time to show up in the figures yet But it’s the schools - they were closed No it’s the pubs and restaurants - they were closed No we mean shops - they were closed. But it’s Christmas - many people didn’t mix Let’s face it nobody really has a clue. It’s amongst and it’s going to do what it’s going to do until it burns itself out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted January 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 2 hours ago, WalkedUp said: Last week it was 1:50 nationally with 1:40 in London. Things are getting much worse, expect a spike in deaths. And we were so close to the vaccine. If you look at this graph of covid hospital admissions I would say things are getting better in some areas. Note the downturn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 hours ago, AVB said: But it’s the schools - they were closed No it’s the pubs and restaurants - they were closed No we mean shops - they were closed. But it’s Christmas - many people didn’t mix Let’s face it nobody really has a clue. It’s amongst and it’s going to do what it’s going to do until it burns itself out. Schools only shut the week before xmas, tier 4 only came in on the 20th, tier 3 in many places was the 16th, shops and restaurants were open in many places till then. If you think people didn't mix over xmas then your having a laugh, most won't have but lots will have. Me and the misses gave blood on new years eve, I went then she did, with the kids in the park while I was in then swap, there was a cafe doing hot drinks, mulled wine and there were people queuing all down the street, they certainly weren't 2m apart. People travelling home from working away, then going back again in the new year, then announcing another lockdown after schools had gone back. It's far from ideal, but people are still mixing then passing it on it's as simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) This thought has been stuck in my head 🤣: Mendoza - CV Sloppy Joes assassin - Christmas festivities ‘Live 4 Ever’ - Vaccine McBain - BoJo Edited January 13, 2021 by WalkedUp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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