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Gov Restrictions Announcement 14/06/21


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  On 14/06/2021 at 16:18, Vince Green said:

I don't really care to be honest, it doesn't affect me in the slightest one way or the other. Another month is fine by me

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  On 14/06/2021 at 16:26, Cosmicblue said:

Me too, makes diddly squat difference to me.

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You selfish....

People are dying as a direct result of these restrictions, whether through their own hand, or from otherwise treatable conditions.

Far more, incidentally, than are dying of (or even with) Covid.

I guess just carry on with your "I'm alright Jack" attitude.  Hope none of your nearest and dearest gets ill soon.

 

  On 14/06/2021 at 16:31, ditchman said:

andrew lloyd webber could do with locking up......

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If he martyrs himself - and lets face it he can afford a good legal defence team - good on him.

Won't make up for his crimes against music though.

 

  On 14/06/2021 at 16:34, Scully said:

but it’s not like anyone will ( or can ) do anything about it. 

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I'm not quite so sure about that. 

People have seen the pictures from the G7 of the elites mingling freely whilst the staff were masked up.  The one thing the British get most upset about is not playing by the rules, or their leaders applying different sets of rules.

BoJo knows this, despite what the 'behavioural science' experts on SAGE have been telling him. Their tactics of FUD and the ahem....I'm alright Jack attitude typified by posters above, is barely keeping a lid on the situation. 

This summer will be ugly unless things change rapidly.  I really would not want to be a police officer.

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  On 14/06/2021 at 16:51, udderlyoffroad said:

 

 

I'm not quite so sure about that. 

People have seen the pictures from the G7 of the elites mingling freely whilst the staff were masked up.  The one thing the British get most upset about is not playing by the rules, or their leaders applying different sets of rules.

BoJo knows this, despite what the 'behavioural science' experts on SAGE have been telling him. Their tactics of FUD and the ahem....I'm alright Jack attitude typified by posters above, is barely keeping a lid on the situation. 

This summer will be ugly unless things change rapidly.  I really would not want to be a police officer.

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I genuinely hope you’re correct. I hope there’s civil unrest, and even though I was annoyed at the double standards at the G7,   I’m also a shotgun and certificate holder, and as such won’t be rocking boats enough to put those at risk, just like any other dissenter on this forum. I have my own double standards to live by. 
The best I can do is take my custom elsewhere if I’m asked to wear a mask, and that’s it really, but living as rural as I do, if I’m refused service in the village shop, it’s an 18 mile round trip to the next shop, so it will be me who suffers and no one else. 
 

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  On 14/06/2021 at 17:14, Scully said:

I have my own double standards to live by.

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Never a truer word spoken in jest.

Yep, thus far I have complied with mask-ery so as not to cause a scene.  Unless I'm sure I'm unnecessarily burning bridges, no more.  I have a condtion, doncha know.

 

  On 14/06/2021 at 16:18, Vince Green said:

Another month is fine by me

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It won't be another month.  We're 14months into '3weeks to flatten the curve'

This isn't over till the great British public say it's over.  Not law-abiding licence holders, obviously.

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I use as many local shops and businesses as I can and I do not wear a face nappy in any of them and have never been approached in any of them.

Saw a woman walking her dog today in open countryside, at least a good half mile from any habitation and she is masked up.  We now have over half the population scared witless to venture out.  Pathetic.

....and they still let the garbage in across the Channel with no effort to turn them back.  Over half of these have proved positve for covid.  GREAT!!

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Only worry about the things you can change, I learned that a long time ago. As for the rest get on with it. Why should it bother you in the slightest what a woman chooses to do while out walking her dog?

  On 14/06/2021 at 18:00, Walker570 said:

I use as many local shops and businesses as I can and I do not wear a face nappy in any of them and have never been approached in any of them.

Saw a woman walking her dog today in open countryside, at least a good half mile from any habitation and she is masked up.  We now have over half the population scared witless to venture out.  Pathetic.

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  On 14/06/2021 at 16:58, Pangolin said:

Wonder how many will turn out for the march on the 26th.

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All the usual trouble makers who turn out for every march irrespective of what its for will be there. 

If you are really lucky Jeremy Corbyn will turn up and make a speech about how its all Israel's fault  

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  On 14/06/2021 at 18:08, ordnance said:

How many ?

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I'm absolutely sure that the death toll from undiagnosed "other conditions" will far and away exceed covid deaths. But there is the crunch 

If they had got people into covid infected hospitals for tests and treatment they too would have contracted covid and died anyway.

And the BBC and the Guardian etc would have been howling incompetence from the roof tops. Damned if they do, damned if they dont 

Many people contracted covid from routine hospital appointments. A friend and neighbour of mine was one such example. He had a heart condition, I had no impression it was considered serious but a few day after a routine outpatients appointment he developed symptoms and within a few days he was gone.

But then people were starting to say that people like him didn't really count because he had "underlying conditions". The implication being he was on the way out anyway but that was so very far from my impression of his condition. He was mid 60s and to my mind fit as a fiddle.

Now there is a very serious backlog and to my mind there are other questions that need to be answered. A lot of GPs flat out refused to see or refer patients. Wise precaution or professional negligence? If you are paid hundreds of thousands of pounds a year (as many are) to treat patients that is their job. you surely can't refuse????

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  On 14/06/2021 at 18:09, Vince Green said:

All the usual trouble makers who turn out for every march irrespective of what its for will be there. 

If you are really lucky Jeremy Corbyn will turn up and make a speech about how its all Israel's fault  

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The last time they had a big march in London I dont recall much trouble if any at all.

  On 14/06/2021 at 18:04, Vince Green said:

Only worry about the things you can change, I learned that a long time ago. As for the rest get on with it. Why should it bother you in the slightest what a woman chooses to do while out walking her dog?

 

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Because when people get to that point of not thinking for themselves they wont question anything or stand up for anything, they'll go along with anything imposed on them.

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But then people were starting to say that people like him didn't really count because he had "underlying conditions". The implication being he was on the way out anyway but that was so very far from my impression of his condition. He was mid 60s and to my mind fit as a fiddle.

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Only a idiot would say that. 

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  On 14/06/2021 at 18:04, Vince Green said:

Only worry about the things you can change, I learned that a long time ago. As for the rest get on with it. Why should it bother you in the slightest what a woman chooses to do while out walking her dog?

 

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Didn't bother me a bit. Just went to prove the Government have turned a large number of the population into scaredy cats.

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My son will not have sports day for the second year running, but other than that I cannot think of any way it affects me at all. I know people who died, including family, and people who have become chronically ill and still not recovered 6 months later. I am not that fussed about this one way or the other as I can see both the economic need to open up and also the humanitarian need to protect our brethren. If you think there is a simple answer to this then you are probably incapable of comprehending the complexity and difficultly of making decisions that will cost people their lives or their livelihoods. I dislike BoJo but you have to say he has a hard job at the minute, he (or rather the NHS and our excellent leftie university research departments) is doing better since January, the vaccine orders he placed outside of EU red tape surely give him some leeway.   

  On 14/06/2021 at 20:46, Walker570 said:

Didn't bother me a bit. Just went to prove the Government have turned a large number of the population into scaredy cats.

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You don’t wear a face mask to save yourself from others, you wear a face mask to save others from yourself. She isn’t a scaredy cat, she is looking out for you in case she has the virus and you are vulnerable. Albeit misplaced concern as you are double vaccinated, but still you may pass it on to someone else who isn’t. Do I wear a mask when legally compelled to do so? Yes. Do I wear a mask at any other time? No. What do I think when I see someone not wearing a mask in a supermarket? “That poor soul must have some medical complication or more likely be a victim of a horrific sexual assault”, I certainly do not think “Wow, looks at him. He’s such an outlaw, with balls of steel.” 

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