Stonepark Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, ShootingEgg said: So when Lviv and Kyiv got bombed was that Russia 'protecting' Donbassians? Did the Donbassian people ask to be bombed out of house and home?? I'm thinking not..... When Kiev was shelling Donetsk City every day for 8 years, was that protecting Kiev, because the Dombass people weren't attacking Ukraine outside of the Dombass? Did the Dombass people deserve to be bombed out of house and home because they did not agree and submit to an illegal coup? Western supporting Ukrainians could have worked towards persuading people to hold a fair and free referendum on whether to join the West\EU or Russia but given the fact that the previous democratic election showed more people wanting to align with Russia, rather than the EU, they West\EU supporting Ukranians chose an illegal coup rather than accept the will of the majority. At that point, knowingly or not, they chose war and those who chose to override the democracy of Ukraine by choice or by acceptance are now reaping the consequences of that decision. The real crime is that those who orchestrated this (USA Neocons) are basically sacrificing the people of Ukraine with virtually no consequences other than some minor discomfort on energy prices in which unlike the EU they are reasonably self sufficient in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted October 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Gordon R said: I repeat "What have financial refugees coming to the UK got to deal with Ukraine? No Ukrainian is being sent to Rwanda." You are incapable of answering a simple question. I am embarrassed for you. Oh dear, someone else has not complied with your demands, tut tut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 If this is only about the Donbas, then why have the Russians attempted to gain control of other regions? For if what’s purported on here is that the Donbas does indeed independently ( independent, not faux) claim to be associated with Russia, then why the continued incursion into other areas? Surely they should merely be securing the Donbas and repelling at the border of this region? Seems someone wanted his cake, ate it and then thought I want more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 32 minutes ago, Jaymo said: If this is only about the Donbas, then why have the Russians attempted to gain control of other regions? For if what’s purported on here is that the Donbas does indeed independently ( independent, not faux) claim to be associated with Russia, then why the continued incursion into other areas? Surely they should merely be securing the Donbas and repelling at the border of this region? Seems someone wanted his cake, ate it and then thought I want more! Ah they were fighting people who were otherwise going to attack the Donbass; all the way from Estonia, Poland and Finland 😆 So we’ve gone from what is in fact an invasion and a war, to SMO to Nazis, gangsters and drug dealers to freeing the people of Donbass - who knew? I wonder if the people of Donbass wools have liked the option of not being invaded, moving to Russia or otherwise trying much harder with a political solution (as we have been told everyone else must). Brainwashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 22 minutes ago, Jaymo said: If this is only about the Donbas, then why have the Russians attempted to gain control of other regions? For if what’s purported on here is that the Donbas does indeed independently ( independent, not faux) claim to be associated with Russia, then why the continued incursion into other areas? Surely they should merely be securing the Donbas and repelling at the border of this region? Seems someone wanted his cake, ate it and then thought I want more! Or they thought, rather than just those (Donbass) who were able to physically resist the illegal Ukranian Government should be given the chance to make a choice over whotgey align with (areas coloured blue), or it could be punishing Ukraine for their transgressions and acting as a warning to the Ukranian government or any number of explanations. Since the entire West is speculating without knowing all the facts or motivations, you can believe what you wish but Russia is going to continue doing what it wishes until it achieves it aims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchughcb Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 2 hours ago, welsh1 said: Quack quack If you want peace you have to avoid invading another country. Good lord. You are a moderator and all you can contribute is quack quack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted October 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, mchughcb said: Good lord. You are a moderator and all you can contribute is quack quack? But he wrote more than quack quack, you are getting on several people moobs. Edited October 14, 2022 by Dave-G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 I'm confused. When did Ukraine move to the Balkans? Or is mchughcb' s grasp of geography as tenuous as his grasp of reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 this has to be the most toxic thread out there glad my names not on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Stonepark said: Let's ask a question, if Scotland was to have an illegal referendum and then declare independence, what would Mungler et al say? Again it's apples and oranges being compared. The referendums were illegal in many ways, one of which is any oblast independence ballot has to be nation wide not just local. There is evidence that the Donetsk vote was rigged and Putin said they had to have an 89% yes vote...guess what boys and girls, it was 89%. Then there are questions on the wording which people took as meaning total independence or broad autonomy. This and other problems led to a counter referendum which said "Are you for maintaining your territorial community within Ukraine and reunification with the Dnipropetrovsk Oblast?" and 69% answered yes! So very different to Scotland and one has to ask which referendum wins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 I still love how the shills say that the US is to blame for all of this. Hilarious. Utterly bonkers. If only the US hadn’t made Putin the master strategist invade a neighbour and start a war he is now losing. Genius level blame game right there. Bonkers. In other news, if this is true and surely it can’t be, then it won’t be too long now… 22 minutes ago, clangerman said: this has to be the most toxic thread out there glad my names not on it! We’ve since found two far worse Putin apologists than you. It’s so bad they even make you look half sane 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted October 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, Mungler said: I still love how the shills say that the US is to blame for all of this. Hilarious. Utterly bonkers. If only the US hadn’t made Putin the master strategist invade a neighbour and start a war he is now losing. Genius level blame game right there. Bonkers. In other news, if this is true and surely it can’t be, then it won’t be too long now… We’ve since found two far worse Putin apologists than you. It’s so bad they even make you look half sane 😆 That's well worth a laff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 20 minutes ago, Mungler said: We’ve since found two far worse Putin apologists than you. It’s so bad they even make you look half sane 😆 thanks for proving why this thread should have been locked long ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 50 minutes ago, henry d said: Again it's apples and oranges being compared. The referendums were illegal in many ways, one of which is any oblast independence ballot has to be nation wide not just local. You mean like the Scottish independence vote was illegal, because the people of England ,Wales and NI didnt get a vote on it 50 minutes ago, henry d said: There is evidence that the Donetsk vote was rigged and Putin said they had to have an 89% yes vote...guess what boys and girls, it was 89%. 51 minutes ago, henry d said: So very different to Scotland and one has to ask which referendum wins? In other news , the Pope has confirmed , he is indeed a catholic , and bears have been proven to defecate in wooded terrain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 Quote Oh dear, someone else has not complied with your demands, tut tut. mchughcb makes a rather silly statement, but won't back it up. Cue Dave-G. Please make an effort not to think. It's not your strong point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, Rewulf said: You mean like the Scottish independence vote was illegal, because the people of England ,Wales and NI didnt get a vote on it Ooooh I’d love a chance to vote in that. Mind you, I’m all up for invading Scotland and carpet bombing the civilians - I know that would get the thumbs up on here and we can all then blame the Americans 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 30 minutes ago, clangerman said: thanks for proving why this thread should have been locked long ago! If you say so. Or you could just shuffle off and bother some other thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 16 minutes ago, Mungler said: Mind you, I’m all up for invading Scotland and carpet bombing the civilians - I know that would get the thumbs up on here and we can all then blame the Americans Sounds good to me , Im in the process of setting up a completely not nazi battalion at the moment, to ethnically .. re integrate our ginger cousins back into the reich UK , should they get cheeky and do another 'illegal' referendum. Plus , we would be doing them a favour , there ae parts of Scotland that would look a lot better carpet bombed... The Yanks wont get involved, they only love the Irish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 2 hours ago, mchughcb said: Good lord. You are a moderator and all you can contribute is quack quack? Good god, you keep calling it a special operation when every sane person knows it's an act of war. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck..................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 25 minutes ago, welsh1 said: Good god, you keep calling it a special operation when every sane person knows it's an act of war. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck..................................... It’s proper odd. In all of this not a single criticism of Putin or reference to the invasion of Ukraine and war as anything other than a ‘special military operation’. That’s real independent and balanced thought for you 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted October 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 So if Putin never said it was a war then it weren't a war, and if it don't say quack it ain't a duck. This thread is lightening up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 Never liked Macron, globalist stooge as far as Im concerned, so quite surprised by these comments from him. Hes definitely not singing from the US song sheet here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rewulf said: Never liked Macron, globalist stooge as far as Im concerned, so quite surprised by these comments from him. Hes definitely not singing from the US song sheet here. You crack pot. Video title ‘France refuses to attack Russia’. No one is up for attacking Russia. What’s next on your Kremlin mandated You Tube watchlist tonight? 😆 Or is it just sitting round the fire signing traditional Red Army songs with Stonepark and McLovin? . Edited October 14, 2022 by Mungler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 41 minutes ago, Mungler said: You crack pot. Back to the pathetic insults then ? Did you even watch the video, before letting loose with your gob? If no ones up for attacking Russia, whats that then , Scotch mist ? 😆https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/trains-suspended-parts-russias-belgorod-region-after-defences-shoot-down-missile-2022-10-14/ Although its debateable whether the Kerch bridge is Russia or Ukraine, and Im sure you would rather believe Russia bombed their own bridge ? Biden has said he will annihilate Russian troops if they nuke Ukraine, but its not like the US wants to go beyond proxy war status is it , they just sell them arms ? Incredible naivety. And another slack jawed slobbering attack , because you dont like the content I put up , its there for people to make their own minds up if its relevant or not. Although Im sure you prefer the western censored stuff ,where Ukraine always wins, and the sun shines directly out of St Zelenskys back side ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 Dobby has supposedly announced that mobilisation will end in two weeks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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