Welsh Goverment Eyes Ban on Captive Breeding of Gamebirds

[Poor Shot]

Just when I thought Wales online (Wales premier toilet news outlet) couldn't get any worse I scrolled past this piece if trash..

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/special-features/wales-could-lead-way-banning-25060735?fbclid=IwAR16vlmV1tRjoupwCnkpG-wMN0Lbwavsz2VZiy5YbQPDTruE4mGrfnFjR8A

But of course, we all know even the biggest **** has some flecks of truth In It and as a sport we need to look at it and improve.

The general public will lap this **** up and the Welsh government are all too happy to go along with it if they think it's a vote winner. 

I'm beyond words..

[old man]

11 hours ago, Poor Shot said:

Just when I thought Wales online (Wales premier toilet news outlet) couldn't get any worse I scrolled past this piece if trash..

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/special-features/wales-could-lead-way-banning-25060735?fbclid=IwAR16vlmV1tRjoupwCnkpG-wMN0Lbwavsz2VZiy5YbQPDTruE4mGrfnFjR8A

But of course, we all know even the biggest **** has some flecks of truth In It and as a sport we need to look at it and improve.

The general public will lap this **** up and the Welsh government are all too happy to go along with it if they think it's a vote winner. 

I'm beyond words..

Sadly just the way it's going UK wise, behind the scenes always. Enjoy while we are able?

Lots of us seem unable to see the wood for the trees?

[Lloyd90]

Wales are hot on it, all the lads are saying game shooting / shooting of any animals for sport will be banned in the next 2-3 years in Wales. 

 

 

[Yellow Bear]

1 hour ago, Lloyd90 said:

Wales are hot on it, all the lads are saying game shooting / shooting of any animals for sport will be banned in the next 2-3 years in Wales. 

 

 

Be warned --  this is exactly what you will get with a rampant socialist party in power

[Lloyd90]

11 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said:

Be warned --  this is exactly what you will get with a rampant socialist party in power

 

The way the Cons have done the budget y'day they will lose the next GE I think and Labour are the only alternative so expect it UK wide by 2025 onwards. 

[old man]

1 hour ago, Lloyd90 said:

 

The way the Cons have done the budget y'day they will lose the next GE I think and Labour are the only alternative so expect it UK wide by 2025 onwards. 

By design maybe, royally **** it up then ^^^^ off with fortunes made at the expense of most? 

An people will still vote out of desperation?

[Yellow Bear]

The cynic in me thinks they are aiming to leave labour exactly what labour normally leave them.

[grahamch]

7 hours ago, Lloyd90 said:

Wales are hot on it, all the lads are saying game shooting / shooting of any animals for sport will be banned in the next 2-3 years in Wales. 

 

 

Presumably its the socialist scum in charge of that daft and pointless devolved administration who are agaist it?

[Poor Shot]

8 hours ago, old man said:

Sadly just the way it's going UK wise, behind the scenes always. Enjoy while we are able?

Lots of us seem unable to see the wood for the trees?

Fortunately this is only a very poorly written advert paid for by TLACS but this can very easily gain traction.

Only way we counter this sort of **** is from within..

Firstly, if TLACS can pay for an advert in a online RAG to garner support for their cause then so can BASC, SGA, NGO etc can to. I'm sick of seeing adverts for the organisations in shooting times and countrymans Weekley. Given that only a fieldsports enthusiast would buy these mags it's a waste of paper, ink and money.

I'd love to see articles in Wales online showing the great things about fieldsports. They will advertise anything they are paid to advertise and will make it look like headline news. Wales online and their readership are greatly patriotic yet I've never seen a single article about the world beating clay shooting success that welsh shooters have had in the last few years? The BASC run scouts clay shooting program from last month would have been great for the average layperson to read. Id love to see adverts for game fairs, gundog trails, shows, scurries etc. The sort of event that someone who is otherwise ambivalent towards shooting but likes driving their range rover to countryside could attend and enjoy.

Secondly, we should really be adhering to good practises for stocking release pens, bird density recommendations etc. I'm not a keeper or a farmer or really care either way but having 1000's of poults in a small pen for 6 weeks in clear view of the public can't be good for our image given most good poultry farms do well to keep this hidden out of site in concrete sheds.

Not having 400 bird days and have the guns drive to the pub for a roast beef dinner empty handed while the orgs spend enormous amounts of time and money advertising the virtues of eating game.

Not having release pens and fed drives next to main roads. It must be really **** for someone who doesn't understand fieldsports to see 10+ smashed pheasants on the side of the motorway within 100 yards of each other. 

Not having posts on giving up the game giving away "30 Teal, shot this morning. Ideal for dog or BOP food".

We need to be doing everything in our power to not give these people the ammo to shoot us with.

[Poor Shot]

1 hour ago, grahamch said:

Presumably its the socialist scum in charge of that daft and pointless devolved administration who are agaist it?

Anyone who is remotely involved in fieldsports would do well to turn up at the poling station and put a X next to their Conservative constituent regardless of their dislike for Boris, Truss, Sunak or Thatcher.

No one else remotely close to power has anything but absolute hatred for the countryside, the people who live in it and countrysports. It's all big one rewilding photo-op for them, to hell with those who live in it and have their way of life there.

[joejoe]

50 minutes ago, Poor Shot said:

Fortunately this is only a very poorly written advert paid for by TLACS but this can very easily gain traction.

Only way we counter this sort of **** is from within..

Firstly, if TLACS can pay for an advert in a online RAG to garner support for their cause then so can BASC, SGA, NGO etc can to. I'm sick of seeing adverts for the organisations in shooting times and countrymans Weekley. Given that only a fieldsports enthusiast would buy these mags it's a waste of paper, ink and money.

I'd love to see articles in Wales online showing the great things about fieldsports. They will advertise anything they are paid to advertise and will make it look like headline news. Wales online and their readership are greatly patriotic yet I've never seen a single article about the world beating clay shooting success that welsh shooters have had in the last few years? The BASC run scouts clay shooting program from last month would have been great for the average layperson to read. Id love to see adverts for game fairs, gundog trails, shows, scurries etc. The sort of event that someone who is otherwise ambivalent towards shooting but likes driving their range rover to countryside could attend and enjoy.

Secondly, we should really be adhering to good practises for stocking release pens, bird density recommendations etc. I'm not a keeper or a farmer or really care either way but having 1000's of poults in a small pen for 6 weeks in clear view of the public can't be good for our image given most good poultry farms do well to keep this hidden out of site in concrete sheds.

Not having 400 bird days and have the guns drive to the pub for a roast beef dinner empty handed while the orgs spend enormous amounts of time and money advertising the virtues of eating game.

Not having release pens and fed drives next to main roads. It must be really **** for someone who doesn't understand fieldsports to see 10+ smashed pheasants on the side of the motorway within 100 yards of each other. 

Not having posts on giving up the game giving away "30 Teal, shot this morning. Ideal for dog or BOP food".

We need to be doing everything in our power to not give these people the ammo to shoot us with.

Couldn’t agree more

[Krico woodcock]

4 hours ago, Poor Shot said:

Fortunately this is only a very poorly written advert paid for by TLACS but this can very easily gain traction.

Only way we counter this sort of **** is from within..

Firstly, if TLACS can pay for an advert in a online RAG to garner support for their cause then so can BASC, SGA, NGO etc can to. I'm sick of seeing adverts for the organisations in shooting times and countrymans Weekley. Given that only a fieldsports enthusiast would buy these mags it's a waste of paper, ink and money.

I'd love to see articles in Wales online showing the great things about fieldsports. They will advertise anything they are paid to advertise and will make it look like headline news. Wales online and their readership are greatly patriotic yet I've never seen a single article about the world beating clay shooting success that welsh shooters have had in the last few years? The BASC run scouts clay shooting program from last month would have been great for the average layperson to read. Id love to see adverts for game fairs, gundog trails, shows, scurries etc. The sort of event that someone who is otherwise ambivalent towards shooting but likes driving their range rover to countryside could attend and enjoy.

Secondly, we should really be adhering to good practises for stocking release pens, bird density recommendations etc. I'm not a keeper or a farmer or really care either way but having 1000's of poults in a small pen for 6 weeks in clear view of the public can't be good for our image given most good poultry farms do well to keep this hidden out of site in concrete sheds.

Not having 400 bird days and have the guns drive to the pub for a roast beef dinner empty handed while the orgs spend enormous amounts of time and money advertising the virtues of eating game.

Not having release pens and fed drives next to main roads. It must be really **** for someone who doesn't understand fieldsports to see 10+ smashed pheasants on the side of the motorway within 100 yards of each other. 

Not having posts on giving up the game giving away "30 Teal, shot this morning. Ideal for dog or BOP food".

We need to be doing everything in our power to not give these people the ammo to shoot us with.

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[RyanMc]

16 hours ago, Poor Shot said:

Fortunately this is only a very poorly written advert paid for by TLACS but this can very easily gain traction.

Only way we counter this sort of **** is from within..

Firstly, if TLACS can pay for an advert in a online RAG to garner support for their cause then so can BASC, SGA, NGO etc can to. I'm sick of seeing adverts for the organisations in shooting times and countrymans Weekley. Given that only a fieldsports enthusiast would buy these mags it's a waste of paper, ink and money.

I'd love to see articles in Wales online showing the great things about fieldsports. They will advertise anything they are paid to advertise and will make it look like headline news. Wales online and their readership are greatly patriotic yet I've never seen a single article about the world beating clay shooting success that welsh shooters have had in the last few years? The BASC run scouts clay shooting program from last month would have been great for the average layperson to read. Id love to see adverts for game fairs, gundog trails, shows, scurries etc. The sort of event that someone who is otherwise ambivalent towards shooting but likes driving their range rover to countryside could attend and enjoy.

Secondly, we should really be adhering to good practises for stocking release pens, bird density recommendations etc. I'm not a keeper or a farmer or really care either way but having 1000's of poults in a small pen for 6 weeks in clear view of the public can't be good for our image given most good poultry farms do well to keep this hidden out of site in concrete sheds.

Not having 400 bird days and have the guns drive to the pub for a roast beef dinner empty handed while the orgs spend enormous amounts of time and money advertising the virtues of eating game.

Not having release pens and fed drives next to main roads. It must be really **** for someone who doesn't understand fieldsports to see 10+ smashed pheasants on the side of the motorway within 100 yards of each other. 

Not having posts on giving up the game giving away "30 Teal, shot this morning. Ideal for dog or BOP food".

We need to be doing everything in our power to not give these people the ammo to shoot us with.

Agreed

[Lloyd90]

[Poor Shot]

That would be a ******* disaster for fieldsports.

[Fellside]

On 24/09/2022 at 19:12, Poor Shot said:

Fortunately this is only a very poorly written advert paid for by TLACS but this can very easily gain traction.

Only way we counter this sort of **** is from within..

Firstly, if TLACS can pay for an advert in a online RAG to garner support for their cause then so can BASC, SGA, NGO etc can to. I'm sick of seeing adverts for the organisations in shooting times and countrymans Weekley. Given that only a fieldsports enthusiast would buy these mags it's a waste of paper, ink and money.

I'd love to see articles in Wales online showing the great things about fieldsports. They will advertise anything they are paid to advertise and will make it look like headline news. Wales online and their readership are greatly patriotic yet I've never seen a single article about the world beating clay shooting success that welsh shooters have had in the last few years? The BASC run scouts clay shooting program from last month would have been great for the average layperson to read. Id love to see adverts for game fairs, gundog trails, shows, scurries etc. The sort of event that someone who is otherwise ambivalent towards shooting but likes driving their range rover to countryside could attend and enjoy.

Secondly, we should really be adhering to good practises for stocking release pens, bird density recommendations etc. I'm not a keeper or a farmer or really care either way but having 1000's of poults in a small pen for 6 weeks in clear view of the public can't be good for our image given most good poultry farms do well to keep this hidden out of site in concrete sheds.

Not having 400 bird days and have the guns drive to the pub for a roast beef dinner empty handed while the orgs spend enormous amounts of time and money advertising the virtues of eating game.

Not having release pens and fed drives next to main roads. It must be really **** for someone who doesn't understand fieldsports to see 10+ smashed pheasants on the side of the motorway within 100 yards of each other. 

Not having posts on giving up the game giving away "30 Teal, shot this morning. Ideal for dog or BOP food".

We need to be doing everything in our power to not give these people the ammo to shoot us with.

“Given that only a fieldsports enthusiast would buy these mags it's a waste of paper, ink and money.”

I couldn’t agree more. Preaching to the converted burns resources for no gain whatsoever. 
 

 

[jall25]

Im not sure - so many "shots" have no idea of the challenges we are facing and or the need to try and do something about it 

We must all make more efforts to challenge the bad press we get and promote our sport and indeed the good conservation work we do.

I challenge / post positive aspects on various Instagram sites - eg RSPB - Defra - Countryfile - Springwatch - Wildlife trusts etc etc

I also write highlighting issues and positives to my MP and opposition MP.

I have had the MP and a few local councillors to our shoot and showed them the work we do. Does it help ? Maybe - but i know if more of us did it then it surely would 

[captainhastings]

As much as I would like to just give them all two fingers and ignore it all the simple fact is we are losing ground all the time and the speed in picking up. I joined basc couple years ago to at least give another number. I try and fill out any surveys that come along as I think a big issue that basc report is no body or very few ever complete them