kitchrat Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 Last Wednesday I shot 10 birds, de-breasted them and put the carcasses in an old (Paper) potato bag and chucked it into the grey rubbish bin, which is only collected every other Monday. Today, I have maggots crawling out of the bin, with 6 days to go before it is emptied. I also have another 40 birds to deal with. The weather is still very warm. I don't like the idea of dumping rotting bodies in a layby, anyone got a better idea? By the way 75% of my victims have been young birds, probably uneducated and that's why I have been quite lucky!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, kitchrat said: Last Wednesday I shot 10 birds, de-breasted them and put the carcasses in an old (Paper) potato bag and chucked it into the grey rubbish bin, which is only collected every other Monday. Today, I have maggots crawling out of the bin, with 6 days to go before it is emptied. I also have another 40 birds to deal with. The weather is still very warm. I don't like the idea of dumping rotting bodies in a layby, anyone got a better idea? By the way 75% of my victims have been young birds, probably uneducated and that's why I have been quite lucky!! I normally debreast around 10 birds as well , the carcasses are then frozen , these will either be kept for decoys when they are defrosted the day before I need them , or if they are going to be put in the general rubbish bin , they are again frozen and put in the rubbish bin while they are still frozen the night before they collect our rubbish which is normally 6.30 a m on the dot , this avoid any maggots throughout the year . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchrat Posted October 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 19 minutes ago, marsh man said: I normally debreast around 10 birds as well , the carcasses are then frozen , these will either be kept for decoys when they are defrosted the day before I need them , or if they are going to be put in the general rubbish bin , they are again frozen and put in the rubbish bin while they are still frozen the night before they collect our rubbish which is normally 6.30 a m on the dot , this avoid any maggots throughout the year . Good plans but I am a bit overwhelmed by numbers. "Er indoors" doesn't want them in the house freezer, so last year I brought a small stand-alone freezer for the garage. This has now been commandeered too, so a few for decoys is all I have space for!! 40 birds take up quite a volume but the farmer doesn't want me to lay off them!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 21 minutes ago, kitchrat said: Good plans but I am a bit overwhelmed by numbers. "Er indoors" doesn't want them in the house freezer, so last year I brought a small stand-alone freezer for the garage. This has now been commandeered too, so a few for decoys is all I have space for!! 40 birds take up quite a volume but the farmer doesn't want me to lay off them!! Well I shoot foxes on a farm and the farmer buries them. If your farmer wants these birds shot then ask him if he will bury the excess bodies. YES YES!!! I know what a waste but needs must some times. Many farms have a burn pit where they dispose of old pallets etc. another likely place for disposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) There's a facebook group where game can be cleared out to willing buyers volunteers for both human ( I think) and raw feeding dogs. There is a rule about not discussing the raw feed aspect so just list what you have in what area and wait for takers to contact you. Rabbits in fur, Canada geese and various deer species seem to be popular. https://www.facebook.com/groups/711887105644433/?hoisted_section_header_type=recently_seen&multi_permalinks=2293965220769939 Edited October 25, 2022 by Dave-G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldfish Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) Fox bait or maggot farm and feed the chickens Edited October 25, 2022 by Goldfish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 If you can breast them in the field you could leave the carcasses in the hedge bottom; they won’t be there for long. Other than that, ask the landowner where you can leave them, or place them in bin liners ensuring as much air as possible is expelled before tightly tying them if you put them out for the rubbish. Next problem is cats, but we’re not allowed to discuss those. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 Fire pit on the farm for the crows . And de breasted pigeons . If I shoot just a few they will most likely go in the hedge (good for the foxes and badgers .it keeps them away from the farmers chickens ) 🐔 Sometimes I put a few whole in the freezer for decoys for later . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 There is normally a way round just about anything , when you debreast the pigeons put the remainder of the pigeons in a plastic rubble bag or a bag big enough to hold them , tie a knot around the top of that bag and then place that bag into another and tie the top up as well , this should prevent the flies getting into the bags , or if any maggots are in then this should stop them getting out . If time allow then process them the day before the bin men arrive , to be honest , this should be a fairly easy problem to solve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Scully said: If you can breast them in the field you could leave the carcasses in the hedge bottom; they won’t be there for long. Other than that, ask the landowner where you can leave them, or place them in bin liners ensuring as much air as possible is expelled before tightly tying them if you put them out for the rubbish. Next problem is cats, but we’re not allowed to discuss those. 🙂 this is the best way.....take a tupaware box with you to put the breasts i.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 It's surprising how efficient the countryside is at cleaning up, when it comes to a food source being left out . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchrat Posted October 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 Thanks for all the good advice Gents. I do have a contact who can give them to some zoo for the lions and tigers (yes, it's true, shot with lead too) but as I am just back from my summer vacation, I am not back in touch with him yet. All friends and fellow beaters usually take a lot but again, connections have not yet been reopened. Meantime, I have negotiated a bit more room in MY freezer and I am adopting MM's idea of a sealed rubble sack on the cold concrete floor of the garage. Roll on winter, the problem goes away! (and the pigeons should hit the rape) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 Just dont leave them under hedge bottoms where jo public has easy access or they will be chucking photographs all over faceache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 Such things do not last long in my wood, the night crew tidy up very well and if they miss sonething the oldbuzzard sees to that. Mind, I don't very often shoot decoyed pigeons these days, when I did , you could sell them.....happy days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 31 minutes ago, Dougy said: Just dont leave them under hedge bottoms where jo public has easy access or they will be chucking photographs all over faceache. Yes I go along with that , you would have to be over run with Fox's to clear up 40 in one place and if Crows pull them about you have got a hell of a lot of feathers to contend with , another option if it is not to far away is to bag them up and take them to your nearest house hold recycling place , they have got big trailers where you can get rid of them without leaving a big mess in the country side for the likes of Joe public making a big issue out of a load of dead Pigeons laying about . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchrat Posted October 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 I always try to make sure they go into the food chain, unless they have been impaled on the magnet or floater. Then the foxes can have them. Tonight I have delicious pigeon breasts, slow cooked in a red wine/beef gravy..... Eat your heart out Gents!!! In Canada I de-breast my geese and tie the body to a tree for the bears/racoons/skunks and Bob the Bobcat to eat. Can't do that here in my tiny semi-suburban garden! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellside Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 If you dispose of the breasted carcasses on the farm in a sensible place (i.e not a roadside or by a path etc), as Scully said, they won’t be there long. Usually within 24 hours they will just be feather piles. Just breast them where you shoot. Nature does the rest. P.S Don’t leave them in a conspicuous unsightly heap - spread them about on the edge of a wood or hedge bottom. One here, one over there and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 Once i chucked 3 fox's in a muck spreader, the ones with chain flails in, the farmer did have a word with me told me it would have been better if they had been dead some considerable time before. We had a good laugh about it when he stopped spreading after he saw rather large pieces flying over the field. It did cause him a bit of a problem getting them out with the tank full of runny muck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellside Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 Ha ha great 🤣 You should change your forum name to ‘FoxSpreader’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipdog Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 Take what you can from the bird, the rest leave to nature to make good use of. You owe it, if nothing else to your quarry. I go duck shooting but I only have time to prep and eat the breasts. The carcass is put under a hedge for the rest of the wildlife, be it a fox, buzzard whatever to make good use of. I rest easy knowing it hasn’t gone to waste and has given something else a good meal, which in the case of Mr fox means its had to kill one less thing! Putting a carcass in the general waste bin, when there are viable alternatives, is despicable! (I know its not always possible, so not having a go, but we should try our best to ensure nothing goes to waste) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehb102 Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 Anyone who wants to get rid of edible birds, food sharing apps like Olio and Facebook groups like Giving Up The Game are very good for finding people who appreciate both the meat and the work you put in. Having connected a local shooter with a local gourmet, I'm heading stories of large bags of pigeon and lots of geese exchanging hands. And if my friend has perhaps offered a monetary gift later that more than covered cartridge costs, it only ensured he gets next chance at another decent bag. TLDR: foodie townies will take pigeon and goose and be grateful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 or do what i did......... finish work half day on thursday gun and nets already in the company car....go shooting take gun out when i got home leave the net in for next time......had a long weekend (high summer) and bank holiday....backto work wednesday morning car was running with maggots...and the stench was appalling ...i had left one bird caught up in the netting.......i was retching all the way to Birmingham.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehb102 Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 I'd like to know any tips for stopping the rot of carcasses in the bin. I've started taking bodies up the tip. Put a goose in the green bin and it goes on honking for another week 😆 Maybe I need a sack of quicklime! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipdog Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, ehb102 said: I'd like to know any tips for stopping the rot of carcasses in the bin. I've started taking bodies up the tip. Put a goose in the green bin and it goes on honking for another week 😆 Maybe I need a sack of quicklime! Or maybe don’t put them in the bin at all!!! Given them back to nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny_blaster Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 15 hours ago, ditchman said: or do what i did......... finish work half day on thursday gun and nets already in the company car....go shooting take gun out when i got home leave the net in for next time......had a long weekend (high summer) and bank holiday....backto work wednesday morning car was running with maggots...and the stench was appalling ...i had left one bird caught up in the netting.......i was retching all the way to Birmingham.... Going in to Birmingham is enough to make you retch these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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