janner Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 2 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Illegally at this countrys tax payers expense. I dont really care how they travelled and who paid for their ticket but somebody has to do the jobs that our home grown stay at home and migrant blaming reformists are too dang lazy to do, One keen to work migrant who wants to better themselves in, one home grown lazy 'its easier to steal than to work' crim out, a simple way to turn our country into the great industrial dynamo it was before the right wing ideology of thatchers anti union class war left the U.K truly up the Swanee without a paddle, This country needs keen workers, It is long proven that the native population cannot provide these workers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 12 minutes ago, janner said: I dont really care how they travelled and who paid for their ticket but somebody has to do the jobs that our home grown stay at home and migrant blaming reformists are too dang lazy to do 12 minutes ago, janner said: It is long proven that the native population cannot provide these workers Ive got a great idea, why dont we invite millions of 3rd world bargain basement workers in to do the work of these lazy feckless natives ? Then these new workers, who all need somewhere to live, with all the free social benefits of the UK available to them, can pay taxes and keep the lazy 'natives' NOT working ? In fact, thats exactly what we are doing, digging a deeper hole for ourselves. Why dont we get the lazy back to work, we have a labour government now, and for once in their political lifetime they have the power to get this done. But will they, or just keep importing more labour voters ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 On 06/08/2024 at 08:14, 12gauge82 said: I think most companies will not insure against things like riot, war, act of God ect. Probably covered by our government as part of the deals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janner Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 (edited) We pay the police to protect our property from riot, When they cant do what they are paid to do they are rightly forced to foot the bill foot any damage their failure to do their duty has caused. The riot act was repealed in '67, 'bout time it was thought about again, Edited August 12 by janner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymondley Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 1 hour ago, janner said: a simple way to turn our country into the great industrial dynamo it was before the right wing ideology of thatchers anti union class war left the U.K truly up the Swanee without a paddle, Great industrial dynamo? I take it you didn't live in the 70s, most of britain was on strike and what we did make was too expensive, carp or both. The unions were holding the country to ransom. I'd also suggest that Mrs Thatcher created more wealth for the "working class" than Labour ever did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 3 minutes ago, Wymondley said: Great industrial dynamo? I take it you didn't live in the 70s, most of britain was on strike and what we did make was too expensive, carp or both. The unions were holding the country to ransom. I'd also suggest that Mrs Thatcher created more wealth for the "working class" than Labour ever did. /\. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 17 minutes ago, Wymondley said: Great industrial dynamo? I take it you didn't live in the 70s, most of britain was on strike and what we did make was too expensive, carp or both. The unions were holding the country to ransom. I'd also suggest that Mrs Thatcher created more wealth for the "working class" than Labour ever did. This. People really do have such short memories for just how god awful the 70’s were. I remember the rubbish piled high in the streets (bin men on strike) and the power cuts (GWU on strike). And as for the trains… I for one couldn’t get behind re-nationalisation; it’s an obvious political gimmick. Indeed, I can’t think of a single government agency, project or anything that’s well run in budget - everything the state touches turns to the brown stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janner Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 (edited) The rubbish still piles up, twice monthly bin collections by the privatised contractors who only operate for a profit are the cause these days, In the 70's was it possible to get a doctors appointment?, Was it possible for kids to go to the same school as their siblings?, Was it possible for a working man to be able to buy a home for his family on the average earnings, Was it possible for the family to look after their aged and infirm without having to think about putting them in a home, As for the trains, the sooner they are back in public ownership the better, How much were water rates before thatcher decided that there was money to be made from squeezing as much profit as possible out of an industry created by those with public service in mind. Edited August 12 by janner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 25 minutes ago, janner said: The rubbish still piles up, twice monthly bin collections by the privatised contractors who only operate for a profit are the cause these days, In the 70's was it possible to get a doctors appointment?, Was it possible for kids to go to the same school as their siblings?, Was it possible for a working man to be able to buy a home for his family on the average earnings, Was it possible for the family to look after their aged and infirm without having to think about putting them in a home, As for the trains, the sooner they are back in public ownership the better, How much were water rates before thatcher decided that there was money to be made from squeezing as much profit as possible out of an industry created by those with public service in mind. Some valid points there. Maybe it all comes to its knees due to human nature? Greed and idleness sorts it out as common sense is buried? These traits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 1 hour ago, Wymondley said: Great industrial dynamo? I take it you didn't live in the 70s, most of britain was on strike and what we did make was too expensive, carp or both. The unions were holding the country to ransom. I'd also suggest that Mrs Thatcher created more wealth for the "working class" than Labour ever did. This ^^^^ but add the fact that Base rate tax was 33% with NI on top and mortgage rates were at between 12% and 17% . Most working people were just about existing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted August 13 Author Report Share Posted August 13 5 hours ago, janner said: The rubbish still piles up, twice monthly bin collections by the privatised contractors who only operate for a profit are the cause these days, In the 70's was it possible to get a doctors appointment?, Was it possible for kids to go to the same school as their siblings?, Was it possible for a working man to be able to buy a home for his family on the average earnings, Was it possible for the family to look after their aged and infirm without having to think about putting them in a home, As for the trains, the sooner they are back in public ownership the better, How much were water rates before thatcher decided that there was money to be made from squeezing as much profit as possible out of an industry created by those with public service in mind. You either have a short memory or simply have no idea the carp we had with militant unions trying to bring down the country/Tories: screwing state owned industries, work to rule, demarcation, strikes, flying pickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 12 minutes ago, Dave-G said: You either have a short memory or simply have no idea the carp we had with militant unions trying to bring down the country/Tories: screwing state owned industries, work to rule, demarcation, strikes, flying pickets. He's having a nostalgic moment , remembering how idyllic life was under labour governments, where nothing bad ever happened, everybody could afford whatever they wanted, and crime didn't even exist..... Yeah I don't remember it like that either, I just remember being hungry and cold all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 11 hours ago, janner said: The rubbish still piles up, twice monthly bin collections by the privatised contractors who only operate for a profit are the cause these days, In the 70's was it possible to get a doctors appointment?, Was it possible for kids to go to the same school as their siblings?, Was it possible for a working man to be able to buy a home for his family on the average earnings, Was it possible for the family to look after their aged and infirm without having to think about putting them in a home, As for the trains, the sooner they are back in public ownership the better, How much were water rates before thatcher decided that there was money to be made from squeezing as much profit as possible out of an industry created by those with public service in mind. You do understand that the only positives you pluck from the 70’s (same day doctors appointment, smaller school classes / school capacity, better wages and cheaper / more prolific housing stock) are the top 4 casualties directly resulting from uncontrolled mass immigration? Hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 11 hours ago, janner said: The rubbish still piles up, twice monthly bin collections by the privatised contractors who only operate for a profit are the cause these days, In the 70's was it possible to get a doctors appointment?, MADE WORSE BY UNCONTROLLED IMMIGRATION Was it possible for kids to go to the same school as their siblings?, MADE WORSE BY UNCONTROLLED IMMIGRATION Was it possible for a working man to be able to buy a home for his family on the average earnings, MADE WORSE BY UNCONTROLLED IMMIGRATION Was it possible for the family to look after their aged and infirm without having to think about putting them in a home, CERTAINLY NOT HELPED BY UNCONTROLLED MIGRATION As for the trains, the sooner they are back in public ownership the better, How much were water rates before thatcher decided that there was money to be made from squeezing as much profit as possible out of an industry created by those with public service in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janner Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 (edited) It seems that some/most on this thread blame all the countrys woes on immigrants, Have any ever wondered that they may be the underlying cause of our nations problems. Edited August 13 by janner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 (edited) 5 minutes ago, janner said: Hilarious it may be but the failure of government to address what is needed when it is needed is no laughing matter And here we are under Labour. Their first act to abandon the Rwanda scheme. And what’s their plan B for controlling mass immigration?…. Brilliant. Politicians aren’t listening. And we’ll get more of the same and kept being told how good it is for us all. Let’s check back on this in a few years and see what progress Labour has made 😆 . Edited August 13 by Mungler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janner Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 2 hours ago, Mungler said: You do understand that the only positives you pluck from the 70’s (same day doctors appointment, smaller school classes / school capacity, better wages and cheaper / more prolific housing stock) are the top 4 casualties directly resulting from uncontrolled mass immigration? Hilarious. The failure of our governments to deal with the modern world is no laughing matter, For so many to then vote to make things worse was a national disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 Quote We pay the police to protect our property from riot, When they cant do what they are paid to do they are rightly forced to foot the bill foot any damage their failure to do their duty has caused. Probably the most stupid post I have seen in quite some time. Perhaps a Policeman / woman stationed outside every house in any area where there is a riot going on. 🙂 How anyone can blame the Police for a failure to do their duty in these circumstances is beyond me and I suspect many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janner Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 5 minutes ago, Gordon R said: Probably the most stupid post I have seen in quite some time. Perhaps a Policeman / woman stationed outside every house in any area where there is a riot going on. 🙂 How anyone can blame the Police for a failure to do their duty in these circumstances is beyond me and I suspect many others. Perhaps you should read the riot compensation act 2016 which replaced the victorian riot damages act, The police are paid to do a job, If they fail to execute their duty they have to compensate those that have suffered loss because of their inability to do the job they freely took on. In the good olden days a head policman would resign when his force could no longer keep law and order in their patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 15 minutes ago, janner said: Perhaps you should read the riot compensation act 2016 which replaced the victorian riot damages act, The police are paid to do a job, If they fail to execute their duty they have to compensate those that have suffered loss because of their inability to do the job they freely took on. In the good olden days a head policman would resign when his force could no longer keep law and order in their patch. Good lord man , they won't come out if you have been broke into. . They give you a crime number , that just encourages more break- ins. The biggest problem today is the punishment does not fit the crime. What are. Labour going to do prisons are full. Let's release a few and make way for. People. Who say something wrong online. In pure frustration. Yet they let. Someone out of prison who committed. Murder. And had only served. A small part of his sentence . Its all going to get worse . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 1 hour ago, janner said: The failure of our governments to deal with the modern world is no laughing matter, For so many to then vote to make things worse was a national disaster. Please enlighten me as where to find an honest, common sense specimen? Starmer seems to have closed the safety valve on the pressure cooker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 Quote If they fail to execute their duty they have to compensate those that have suffered loss because of their inability to do the job they freely took on. You need to read before you post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 1 hour ago, janner said: It seems that some/most on this thread blame all the countrys woes on immigrants, Have any ever wondered that they may be the underlying cause of our nations problems. Have you ever considered that many of the problems you've highlighted above have been made vastly worse by uncontrolled migration. Our gdp per capita is plummeting because of it, unless your a globalist with a multi national company if course. 1 hour ago, janner said: Perhaps you should read the riot compensation act 2016 which replaced the victorian riot damages act, The police are paid to do a job, If they fail to execute their duty they have to compensate those that have suffered loss because of their inability to do the job they freely took on. In the good olden days a head policman would resign when his force could no longer keep law and order in their patch. Perhaps you should apply some logic before you press 'submit reply'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 (edited) It's far simpler just to Edited August 13 by Penelope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted August 13 Author Report Share Posted August 13 2 hours ago, janner said: It seems that some/most on this thread blame all the countrys woes on immigrants, Have any ever wondered that they may be the underlying cause of our nations problems. Yes -you got that right - they are the cause of many of our woes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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