clangerman Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 28 minutes ago, welsh1 said: And i suppose hezbolla are all just misunderstood terrorists and Hamas just want to chat with all the people they raped and kidnapped. Is the view any good up there on your horse? no horse here both sides are terrorists I don’t make exceptions for propaganda or the flock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 Apparently they were MOTOROLA.......the last Motorola i had in the early 80's had a battery like a brick.......if that had exploded it would have been like a limited nuclear strike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 It appears that many kept their pagers in the trousers pocket - so the explosion blew off their nuts. Ho, ho, ho… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 It didn’t take long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 Marvellous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 (edited) 11 hours ago, Mungler said: It didn’t take long Loads flying about. Nothing hits the mark quite like a Meme. 14 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Apparently Hezbollah had recently done a good deal on some new pagers and somehow they had been doctored. And I bet Mossad sold them to Hezbollah. Mossad have alsway been very sneaky. This is a very good watch and based on a true story. The Spy. https://www.netflix.com/title/80178151 Edited September 18 by Penelope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 14 hours ago, Gordon R said: clangerman - I think you are losing your grip on reality. However, they were saying on the radio that it clearly comes under the same international ban as landmines because they are indiscriminate. Israel must have known this but did it anyway. They don't seem to care what the rest of the world thinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 For those - Clangerman, Cosmicblue, etc. who appear fixated by the Red Sea Pedestrians, I though the Telegraph's piece on exploding pagers would raise their blood pressure. Enjoy! Israel has a long history of inventive, unusual assassination methods, and reports that at least nine people have been killed by exploding pagers could be its latest grim chapter. As of Tuesday night, Israel had not claimed responsibility for the attack – but it bears many of the hallmarks of its special forces units, such as Mossad. Formed in 1949, the year after the birth of the state of Israel, Mossad has been linked to many of Israel’s most daring killings. Over seven decades, it is thought to have relied on exploding books, remote-controlled machine guns and even poisoned toothpaste to reach its targets, with mixed results. In 2012, a documentary claimed that a failed 1970s Israeli assassination plot against Saddam Hussein involved a book rigged with explosives. The documentary, Sealed Lips, recounted how the notoriously paranoid Saddam refused to open the book himself, instead passing it to one of his officials. As soon as the official opened the book, it exploded, killing the official but failing to injure the Iraqi dictator. A failed 1970s Israeli assassination plot against Saddam Hussein involved a book rigged with explosives, according to a documentary AFP via Getty Images Then there was the mysterious case of the poisoned toothpaste, allegedly deployed to kill Wadie Haddad, the leader of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine. According to the 2018 book Rise and Kill First: The Secret History of Israel’s Targeted Assassinations, by Ronen Bergman, a New York Times journalist, a deep cover Mossad hit squad was involved. In 1978, the group gained access to Haddad’s home and swapped his toothpaste for an identical tube containing a toxin developed by Israeli scientists. The poison was said to have seeped into his mouth through his mucous membranes each time he cleaned his teeth, leading to him being taken to hospital in Iraq. The Palestinian commander was eventually treated in East Germany, where doctors found the suspicious toothpaste in his toiletries bag. His death was reportedly slow and painful, with his screams heard from corridors in the hospital, where he died after 10 days. Mossad was suspected of deploying a remote-controlled machine gun to assassinate Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, the head of Iran’s nuclear programme, in 2020. The gun was said to have been smuggled into the country piece by piece, assembled and then placed to ambush the scientist as he travelled near Tehran. Bergman’s book also contains a detailed account of a January 2010 assassination in Dubai, where Mossad agents descended on a hotel to target Mahmoud al-Mabhouh, a Hamas arms supplier. The hit squad flew into the Emirati city from various European locations on false passports, posing as tennis players. They then killed Mabhouh using a paralysing drug, leaving his body to be discovered by hotel staff. Bergman himself points out that many other attempted assassinations did not succeed, and were even botched, but they only spread Mossad’s notoriety around the world. “Occasional blunders have only enhanced the Mossad’s aggressive and merciless reputation,” he writes. “Not a bad thing when the goal of deterrence is as important as the goal of pre-empting specific hostile acts.” 10 minutes ago, Vince Green said: However, they were saying on the radio that it clearly comes under the same international ban as landmines because they are indiscriminate. Israel must have known this but did it anyway. They don't seem to care what the rest of the world thinks. I believe Iran - that bastion of sane, level-headed thinking and tolerance - is calling it mass murder, etc. I can't help but think that if that lot are upset, you're doing something right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 Apparently "they" managed to "doctor" almost 5000 pagers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 2 hours ago, Vince Green said: However, they were saying on the radio that it clearly comes under the same international ban as landmines because they are indiscriminate. Israel must have known this but did it anyway. They don't seem to care what the rest of the world thinks. When your very existance is under threat, would you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 It has been said that the device was supposed to activate shortly after receiving a message, the delay was to give the person in possession time to remove it from a pocket and be looking at the message when it blew up in their face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 3 hours ago, Vince Green said: However, they were saying on the radio that it clearly comes under the same international ban as landmines because they are indiscriminate. Israel must have known this but did it anyway. They don't seem to care what the rest of the world thinks. Hardly indiscriminate more fairly accurately targeted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 The logistics to set this up and actually carry it out must be mind boggling 🤔 It's like something out of a 'Kingsman' film 🫣🙃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 3 hours ago, Vince Green said: However, they were saying on the radio that it clearly comes under the same international ban as landmines because they are indiscriminate. Israel must have known this but did it anyway. They don't seem to care what the rest of the world thinks. I don't think landmines are banned, anti-personel mines are banned though. And even arguing under the anti personel ban, israel did not make, stockpile or transfer any anti personel mines. They did booby trap an pager - electronic device using a tiny bit of explosive and a circuit, and they were targeted given that hezbollah bought them specifically for their terrorist organisation because they were terrified their mobile phones would be tracked or used against them. I have practised in the past with scattering practice anti personel mines from the top of a personel carrier by electronically firing them over practice mine fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 i wonder if the BBC and the govt are looking at this tech'....for those people who dont pay there liecence fee... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 48 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: Hardly indiscriminate more fairly accurately targeted. Indeed, I wonder who this 'they' on the radio was, and whether, as per usual, it went unchallenged. But the cynic in me wonders whether the same people unhappy with this tactic are also the same people happily cheering on the war in Ukraine and insist we supply as much death tech to the Ukrainians as possible. 13 minutes ago, welsh1 said: I don't think landmines are banned, anti-personel mines are banned though. And even arguing under the anti personel ban, israel did not make, stockpile or transfer any anti personel mines. They did booby trap an pager - electronic device using a tiny bit of explosive and a circuit, and they were targeted given that hezbollah bought them specifically for their terrorist organisation because they were terrified their mobile phones would be tracked or used against them. Beat me to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 Walkie talkies now.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13864883/Lebanon-explosions-Hezbollah-communications-devices-detonate-country-pager-bomb.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 MUCH safer................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 More electronics have gone boom this afternoon. Walkie Talkies this time. Chef’s kiss to Mossad, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 WOW, they got a second go at it. https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/sep/18/middle-east-crisis-live-hezbollah-pager-explosion-lebanon-irael-iran-latest-updates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 (edited) “An explosion took place at a funeral held for Hezbollah fighters killed the previous day,“ Telegraph has a video of it - easily worth £250 on You’ve been Framed. Edited September 18 by Flashman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 Hezbollah are apparently looking for a Briton in connection with this matter............................................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 Im waiting for my TV to go up in smoke........Dildo shares have fallen thro' the roof.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 1 minute ago, ditchman said: Im waiting for my TV to go up in smoke........Dildo shares have fallen thro' the roof.. Did you have many? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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