TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 (edited) 1 minute ago, 12gauge82 said: I think it really raises questions about our society and the balance of power between 'ordinary' people and the rich. Yes indeed, look back at those PitA's who took out injunctions to keep the press quiet. Edited September 20 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted September 20 Author Report Share Posted September 20 18 hours ago, marsh man said: I can see the number of females who have said they came in contact with Mr Fayed wandering hand are only going to go one way and that is upwards . On the news dinnertime it have gone up to 30 + , the ole boy must have had plenty of lead in his pencil , MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 before accusing anyone else the bbc should be explaining why THEY cornered the market of employing sex offenders! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 37 now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted September 20 Author Report Share Posted September 20 (edited) 30 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: 37 now. It will soon be up to one of Bunny Blaster bag of Pigeons on one his good days, Did Mr Fayed have a clicker ? Edited September 20 by marsh man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 Just about anyone who worked for him could jump on the bandwagon, with a bumper pay day dangled before them. Give previous matters which CPS didn't act upon and the numbers involved, it does seem to look bad for Al Fayed, although he can't admit or deny the allegations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 From the BBC News website; "Mohamed Al Fayed was a "monster" who threatened his sexual abuse victims to stay silent, lawyers representing former Harrods employees told a news conference on Friday. Giving harrowing details of what is alleged to have taken place, the legal team and one of Fayed's many alleged victims recounted how the former owner of Harrods used his power to force himself on women, had them followed and made them have sexual health checks. The legal team representing 37 women who say they were sexually assaulted or raped by the late billionaire spoke publicly to outline how the former Harrods boss used "his wealth and power to manipulate and control victims". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 (edited) Hello, 10 hours ago, Gordon R said: Just about anyone who worked for him could jump on the bandwagon, with a bumper pay day dangled before them. Give previous matters which CPS didn't act upon and the numbers involved, it does seem to look bad for Al Fayed, although he can't admit or deny the allegations. Hello, I would not blame them !!!! Edited September 21 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 Hello, I would hazard a guess it will be far more than 37 ??, Once they realize they are not alone to suffer the same fate with Al Fayed be brave enough to speak out, Not forgetting those Harrods employees who covered it up, and the lady GP , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 Now looking like 150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 Sod it, I went in there once, might try my luck. Was he into boys 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 how do you get money out of someone who is deaded...........did they succeed with saville.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 12 minutes ago, ditchman said: how do you get money out of someone who is deaded...........did they succeed with saville.... As I understand it, the employer (e.g. Harrods) would be liable for duty of care if the victim was employed by the offenders employer/company. As Fayed was owner/director of Harrods, Harrods will be liable for duty of care lapses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 53 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: As I understand it, the employer (e.g. Harrods) would be liable for duty of care if the victim was employed by the offenders employer/company. As Fayed was owner/director of Harrods, Harrods will be liable for duty of care lapses. aahhhhhhh...............elf & safety..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted September 21 Author Report Share Posted September 21 (edited) Removed my reply . sorry Edited September 21 by marsh man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benbobailey Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 (edited) This really isn't a topic suitable for tasteless jokes and irreverent comments. Very disappointing, but not surprising, please consider those abused in this and other occasions. Edited September 21 by benbobailey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 1 hour ago, benbobailey said: This really isn't a topic suitable for tasteless jokes and irreverent comments. Very disappointing, but not surprising, please consider those abused in this and other occasions. just sit back relax and wait because it’s now a certainty the massive police success with social media will be used on firearms ownership! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipdog Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 2 hours ago, ditchman said: aahhhhhhh...............elf & safety..... Hardly health and safety. More the process of buying a company. You taken on the debt and legal duties associated with its workforce. Without such measures the common man would have no chance against the ruling class! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 10 hours ago, zipdog said: Hardly health and safety. More the process of buying a company. You taken on the debt and legal duties associated with its workforce. Without such measures the common man would have no chance against the ruling class! Their mistake was buying from a wrong 'un Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 From the BBC News website; https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2k9ggjdjdo "The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) has said it twice did not bring charges against Mohamed Al Fayed over sex abuse claims. Fresh allegations are being made about the late billionaire who owned Harrods and who died last year at the age of 94. A BBC documentary has led to dozens of women coming forward to say they were raped or sexually assaulted by Egyptian businessman Fayed. The CPS said on Sunday it considered bringing charges against Fayed in 2009 and 2015 - but on both occasions it "concluded there was no realistic prospect of a conviction". In 2008, the Metropolitan Police investigated Fayed after a 15-year-old girl said he sexually assaulted her in the Harrods boardroom. The force said it handed a file of evidence to the CPS - a step which has to be taken before charges can be issued - but prosecutors decided no further action should be taken. A CPS spokesperson said: “We reviewed files of evidence presented by the police in 2009 and 2015. “To bring a prosecution the CPS must be confident there is a realistic prospect of conviction – in each instance our prosecutors looked carefully at the evidence and concluded this wasn’t the case.” Three other investigations into claims made by three other women - in 2018, 2021 and 2023 - got to an advanced enough stage that the CPS was called in to advise detectives. But, in those instances a full file of evidence was never passed to prosecutors." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 Stinks to high heaven! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 Just now, Newbie to this said: Stinks to high heaven! Two Tier Kier was Director of Public Prosecutions from 2008 to 2013. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 Just now, TIGHTCHOKE said: Two Tier Kier was Director of Public Prosecutions from 2008 to 2013. The MET and the CPS are both cesspits. Seem 2TK is right in the thick of it. No doubt he will deny it came across his desk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 26 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: concluded there was no realistic prospect of a conviction". And therein lies the problem. The way I see it is that having a (no doubt very expensive) hotshot legal team, no independent witnesses, and it coming down to one persons word against another ........ where one person is a very prominent and wealthy man - it is clearly going to be difficult to get a jury to convict 'beyond reasonable doubt'. It's the way the system is, but it is not always a good way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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