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45 minutes ago, clangerman said:

she would “drown” during crossing the fact putting her on trial wouid cost peanuts compared to the millions spent keep her out speaks for itself maybe donkeys just don’t think when braying! lol 

I was half joking about her claiming asylum, BUT theoretically, if she did enter illegally and claimed asylum, I would imagine her case would be successful.
Just like the 1000s of 'ex' terrorists we likely already have here.

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18 hours ago, Rewulf said:

I was half joking about her claiming asylum, BUT theoretically, if she did enter illegally and claimed asylum, I would imagine her case would be successful.
Just like the 1000s of 'ex' terrorists we likely already have here.

All grist to the fee earners mill?

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4 hours ago, oowee said:

We have a choice. Try and ensure we all get a good outcome (which costs money) or let it go to rat poo and moan about the migrants.

Of course, like Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya, great outcomes 🤣

Oh and let's not forget the Ukrainian 'adventure' gonna be a great outcome there....

It's going to cost money, billions... And the result will be rat poo and more migrants, can't beat poking our nose into things that don't concern us, then hand wringing over the result.

How can we possibly say we are bringing peace, democracy and stability, when we've just replaced a moderate government with a hard line Islamic terrorist group ?

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13 hours ago, oowee said:

We have a choice. Try and ensure we all get a good outcome (which costs money) or let it go to rat poo and moan about the migrants.

Absolute nonsense in the context of sending £50m to what were a prohibited terror group 2 weeks ago and for no designated purpose our outcome.

Typical Labour - zero thought, just throw tax payer money at it.

Indeed, do tell what ‘good outcome’ is expected and how it is achieved, ‘precisely’ and why say £10m will be insufficient and £100m too much.

 

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8 hours ago, Rewulf said:

Of course, like Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya, great outcomes 🤣

Oh and let's not forget the Ukrainian 'adventure' gonna be a great outcome there....

It's going to cost money, billions... And the result will be rat poo and more migrants, can't beat poking our nose into things that don't concern us, then hand wringing over the result.

How can we possibly say we are bringing peace, democracy and stability, when we've just replaced a moderate government with a hard line Islamic terrorist group ?


Syria is going to end up an Islamic caliphate and yes, we’ve just send them £50m.

They still don’t get it. I bet the UK government sent the Assad regime money in the past, and his flash car collection should have been some clue where that money went.

We should have used the £50m on the Rwanda scheme or making some useless civil servants redundant - that’s how you get a return off tax payer money. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Mungler said:


Syria is going to end up an Islamic caliphate and yes, we’ve just send them £50m.

They still don’t get it. I bet the UK government sent the Assad regime money in the past, and his flash car collection should have been some clue where that money went.

We should have used the £50m on the Rwanda scheme or making some useless civil servants redundant - that’s how you get a return off tax payer money. 

 

 

Very real risk. I don’t endorse the £50M but we haven’t just dropped it into Abu Mo al-Julsni’s PayPal account, have we?

I understood the money has been sent through the likes of the UN and is at least in part aimed at managing the ensuing refugee crisis. I’m not suggesting it’s a good ROI but the international community needed to do something.

Could it be that local refugee processing might reduce the number who roll up on our beaches in the long run, I don’t know, just thinking out loud…

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46 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said:

Very real risk. I don’t endorse the £50M but we haven’t just dropped it into Abu Mo al-Julsni’s PayPal account, have we?

Hes probably had a lot more than that dropped into his account from Turkey and the US for services rendered 😆

 

48 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said:

Could it be that local refugee processing might reduce the number who roll up on our beaches in the long run

Local refugee processing will likely involve a long knife and a pile of heads.
I wouldnt fancy being a known assad supporter right now in Syria.

Its the Kurds I feel most sorry for, they helped beat ISIS into submission, but now Turkey will have free rein to destroy them, probably with the new regimes help.

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3 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

Hes probably had a lot more than that dropped into his account from Turkey and the US for services rendered 😆

 

Local refugee processing will likely involve a long knife and a pile of heads.
I wouldnt fancy being a known assad supporter right now in Syria.

It’s the Kurds I feel most sorry for, they helped beat ISIS into submission, but now Turkey will have free rein to destroy them, probably with the new regimes help.

Agreed, particularly on the plight of the Kurds.

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10 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said:

Agreed, particularly on the plight of the Kurds.


We won’t see people marching through London for the Kurds will we?

Funny how some causes are groovy and others not so much. Again, I’ve never seen a committee lefty give a Jew a fair break. I digress.

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1 hour ago, Mungler said:

We won’t see people marching through London for the Kurds will we?

Nope , too busy marching for proscribed terror orgs like hamas, hezbolla and now, ex ISIS, ex al quaeda, HTS.
The poor Kurds, who smashed ISIS, will be the new 'war on terror' target, because our ally Turkey says so.
Funny old world, geo politics...

Always reminds me of the Afghans, when they fought Russia, they were freedom fighters, when WE fought them, they were insurgents.

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2 hours ago, Rewulf said:

Nope , too busy marching for proscribed terror orgs like hamas, hezbolla and now, ex ISIS, ex al quaeda, HTS.
The poor Kurds, who smashed ISIS, will be the new 'war on terror' target, because our ally Turkey says so.
Funny old world, geo politics...

Always reminds me of the Afghans, when they fought Russia, they were freedom fighters, when WE fought them, they were insurgents.

 

Agreed. There's a point where you reach an age to see we've all been here before.

Ditto for labour and the 1970's.

 

 

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It would be nice if the funds we foolishly send could be properly accounted for. Giving it to charitable organisations does little to ensure it reaches those in need.

Bit like Live Aid in 1985. Just remind me how little has been accounted for, aside from buying arms.

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12 minutes ago, Gordon R said:

Bit like Live Aid in 1985. Just remind me how little has been accounted for, aside from buying arms.


Ah yes, great example. As the West congratulated itself and patted itself on the back… the after the event reconciliation suggested that only 5% got anywhere near famine victims, 95% being lost in NGOs and usual BS in that region. 

Do I think any of that £50m will benefit the needy? No. Not a chance - there is no proper legal system or system of government so why should it? Even if it’s converted into food, that food will be commandeered and stolen or sold - which is how the Hamas fighters that invaded Israel all had UN medial kits on them. 

It’s £50m spaffed straight up a wall, but hey, that’s Labour and an unchanged track record for what they do with other people’s money.

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21 minutes ago, Gordon R said:

It would be nice if the funds we foolishly send could be properly accounted for. Giving it to charitable organisations does little to ensure it reaches those in need.

Bit like Live Aid in 1985. Just remind me how little has been accounted for, aside from buying arms.

Oh come on Gordon, get realistic, that will NEVER happen I'm afraid.

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8 minutes ago, Mungler said:

It’s £50m spaffed straight up a wall

And therell be more to follow.
Funny how labour can find money for stuff like this, then tell us we cant afford to provide services at home ?

Its the same everywhere you get a lefty governance, 'we cant afford to spend money on that' next minute theyre chucking tens of thousands at 'artwork' or making sure everyone is up to date with their DEI training.
 

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17 hours ago, Rewulf said:

Of course, like Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya, great outcomes 🤣

Oh and let's not forget the Ukrainian 'adventure' gonna be a great outcome there....

It's going to cost money, billions... And the result will be rat poo and more migrants, can't beat poking our nose into things that don't concern us, then hand wringing over the result.

How can we possibly say we are bringing peace, democracy and stability, when we've just replaced a moderate government with a hard line Islamic terrorist group ?

We are at hybrid war with Russia. We need to pour in money not tinker at the edge. 

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5 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

And therell be more to follow.
Funny how labour can find money for stuff like this, then tell us we cant afford to provide services at home ?

Its the same everywhere you get a lefty governance, 'we cant afford to spend money on that' next minute theyre chucking tens of thousands at 'artwork' or making sure everyone is up to date with their DEI training.
 

Bingo !!!.

What's DEI training ?.

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40 minutes ago, Gordon R said:

It would be nice if the funds we foolishly send could be properly accounted for. Giving it to charitable organisations does little to ensure it reaches those in need.

Bit like Live Aid in 1985. Just remind me how little has been accounted for, aside from buying arms.

We could of course use the millions that we have on hold from Syria. 

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