Gordon R Posted December 16 Report Share Posted December 16 We could of course just stop sending money. We haven't a clue what happens to foreign aid. I might be cynical, but I suspect many palms are being greased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted December 16 Report Share Posted December 16 11 minutes ago, mel b3 said: What's DEI training ?. Diversity, equality , inclusion 13 minutes ago, oowee said: We are at hybrid war with Russia. Would you prefer it to escalate to a full blown out hot war ? WW3 ? 14 minutes ago, oowee said: We need to pour in money not tinker at the edge. To what ends, we poured money into Iraq, Afghan, where did it get us ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted December 16 Report Share Posted December 16 1 minute ago, Rewulf said: Diversity, equality , inclusion Aha. I keep getting emails from work , saying that I haven't done my DEI training , but I can't open my work emails , to see the full message. I've been ignoring them for months . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted December 16 Report Share Posted December 16 8 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Diversity, equality , inclusion Would you prefer it to escalate to a full blown out hot war ? WW3 ? To what ends, we poured money into Iraq, Afghan, where did it get us ? No would you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted December 16 Report Share Posted December 16 (edited) 43 minutes ago, mel b3 said: What's DEI training ?. 31 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Diversity, equality , inclusion Or in reality- Divide, Exclude, Instigate Edited December 16 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted December 16 Report Share Posted December 16 30 minutes ago, oowee said: No would you? Well, what do you expect the result of 'hybrid' war will be ? What do we expect to happen if Ukraine gets better weapons, NATO boots on the ground like hes asking for. At the moment were just pumping money in, and more people are dying, what are we achieving ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted December 16 Report Share Posted December 16 3 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Well, what do you expect the result of 'hybrid' war will be ? What do we expect to happen if Ukraine gets better weapons, NATO boots on the ground like hes asking for. At the moment were just pumping money in, and more people are dying, what are we achieving ? That will depend on Russia. They are already directly attacking the west. What do you expect to happen if they continue? At the moment Russia is throwing men and resources and more are dying, what are they achieving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted December 16 Report Share Posted December 16 2 minutes ago, oowee said: They are already directly attacking the west. How so ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted December 16 Report Share Posted December 16 6 minutes ago, Rewulf said: How so ? Nerve agent in UK, cyber attacks, arson, plane bombings, internet cable destruction, assassinations, election interference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted December 16 Report Share Posted December 16 9 minutes ago, oowee said: Nerve agent in UK, cyber attacks, arson, plane bombings, internet cable destruction, assassinations, election interference. None of which are proven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted December 16 Report Share Posted December 16 1 minute ago, Rewulf said: None of which are proven don’t say that or he will never pick up his free rifle and lift to the front line! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted December 16 Report Share Posted December 16 16 minutes ago, Rewulf said: None of which are proven Lidl do a good line in tin foil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted December 16 Report Share Posted December 16 6 minutes ago, oowee said: Lidl do a good line in tin foil. So no proof then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted December 16 Report Share Posted December 16 (edited) 10 hours ago, Mungler said: Syria is going to end up an Islamic caliphate and yes, we’ve just send them £50m. They still don’t get it. I bet the UK government sent the Assad regime money in the past, and his flash car collection should have been some clue where that money went. We should have used the £50m on the Rwanda scheme or making some useless civil servants redundant - that’s how you get a return off tax payer money. Maybe it will but lets not make it a certainty. We do of course hold far more Syrian cash than we have sent. 4 minutes ago, Rewulf said: So no proof then ? ? If you feel that intelligence services in the UK, Germany, France and the US are mistaken than you need to get to Aldi (thicker grade then lidl). Of course it could all change with Putin apologist in charge of US intelligence. Edited December 16 by oowee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 16 Author Report Share Posted December 16 There are 2 politicle parties in Syria........ them with guns them without guns who have you got your money on ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted December 16 Report Share Posted December 16 40 minutes ago, oowee said: Maybe it will but let’s not make it a certainty. We do of course hold far more Syrian cash than we have sent. Meaningless. If I am holding £x which I am holding and can’t spend, and I spend out £50m of my own money, I’m still out £50m and £50m worse off. I’ve never met a lefty that’s good with numbers. Probably because so few are in or running an actual business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted December 16 Report Share Posted December 16 Just now, Mungler said: Meaningless. If I am holding £x which I am holding and can’t spend, and I spend out £50m of my own money, I’m still out £50m and £50m worse off. I’ve never met a lefty that’s good with numbers. Probably because so few are in or running an actual business. 🥱 boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted December 16 Report Share Posted December 16 22 minutes ago, oowee said: 🥱 boring. But nonetheless entirely accurate, which makes your reply particularly poignant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted December 16 Report Share Posted December 16 3 hours ago, Mungler said: I’ve never met a lefty that’s good with numbers. Probably because so few are in or running an actual business. Not standing up for lefties but that’s a pretty ridiculous thing to state, even by your standards 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted December 17 Report Share Posted December 17 5 hours ago, Raja Clavata said: Not standing up for lefties but that’s a pretty ridiculous thing to state, even by your standards 😂 Not at all. Classic capitalism vs socialism. Most people who run businesses and who strive to earn money and who take on all that entails are unsurprisingly the least keen on giving it away or watching it get spaffed up a wall. If I listed out the last few hundred business owners I’ve interacted with, I’d struggle to find one who was a socialist. Indeed, I’ve had another think and still can’t think of one. Unsurprisingly I can’t think of one that would vote for supertax labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted December 17 Report Share Posted December 17 3 hours ago, Mungler said: Not at all. Classic capitalism vs socialism. Most people who run businesses and who strive to earn money and who take on all that entails are unsurprisingly the least keen on giving it away or watching it get spaffed up a wall. If I listed out the last few hundred business owners I’ve interacted with, I’d struggle to find one who was a socialist. Indeed, I’ve had another think and still can’t think of one. Unsurprisingly I can’t think of one that would vote for supertax labour. I was referring to the good with numbers point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted December 17 Report Share Posted December 17 16 hours ago, mel b3 said: Bingo !!!. What's DEI training ?. Diversity, Equity and Inclusion. One of the ESG pillars. ESG is essentially Goverenment and Corporate sanctioned wokism, Marxism, commununism (take your pick). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted December 17 Report Share Posted December 17 2 minutes ago, Penelope said: Diversity, Equity and Inclusion. Unless you are heterosexual and white then it changes to DIE (Diversity, inequity and exclusion) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted December 17 Report Share Posted December 17 15 hours ago, Newbie to this said: Or in reality- Divide, Exclude, Instigate 👍 1 minute ago, Yellow Bear said: Unless you are heterosexual and white then it changes to DIE (Diversity, inequity and exclusion) Oh, I'm under no illusion as to the 'locks of the situation. Fully immersed in ESG here, thanks!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted December 17 Report Share Posted December 17 1 hour ago, Raja Clavata said: I was referring to the good with numbers point. Leaving aside a cheap shot at Rachel from accounts because there is ample time for that in the coming years… If you are a committed lefty come socialist then ‘numbers’ in the context of running a business and ‘money’ will be lost on you because, as above (1) chances are you have never owned or run your own business for profit (a glimpse into the current cabinet confirms this 100%) and (2) the capitalist use and operation of money will be lost on you because you do not view money (or capital infrastructure) in the context of delivering value, profit and a return for the business owner / shareholders - if you are an ideologically driven socialist you will consider that society should own and control the means of production and the idea of a return to shareholders in the form of unearned income will be abhorrent. The richest countries are based on capitalism and the poorest socialism. Perhaps I should have clarified terrible with money or numbers in the context of money. I am not suggesting that committed lefties can never pass a maths A level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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