Syria....

[ditchman]

6 hours ago, Mice! said:

I very much doubt that, it'll be the same as everywhere else, chaos, murder and bad news, why would anyone go back?

quite right why would you loosly try to earn a living in a failed state when you can come over here and get everything for doing **** all

[Mice!]

45 minutes ago, ditchman said:

quite right why would you loosly try to earn a living in a failed state when you can come over here and get everything for doing **** all

Long way from there to here, but I doubt any leaving would return,  things are never rosey after a coup.

[ditchman]

18 minutes ago, Mice! said:

Long way from there to here, but I doubt any leaving would return,  things are never rosey after a coup.

what does give me hope at the moment is the appearance of the freedom of the women who are celibrating with their families ..in a variety of different costums...some are even not wearing headscarfes

dont forget before the Assad family took over Syria,,, the country was very westernised and cultured..and all religions co exisited with each other..................maybe there is some memory of that left they wish to return to

[Houseplant]

16 hours ago, Mungler said:

It’s another basket case of a failed state.

We in the West still possess a total lack of understanding and project our western liberal ideologies; ‘oh look Assad has gone, they can all now have a general election and get a democratically elected system of government put in place’. Not a chance. It’s just more blood shed as the door opens for the next batsh*t crazy regime to rinse the country’s wealth and resources. As someone posted on here recently - it’s just a different foot in the boot that remains on the neck of Syrian people. 

Exactly! Another bloodbath is pending. 

[oldypigeonpopper]

Hello, well well well who would have thought Assad and Family end up in Moscow !!!!!  I wonder how much money they took/stole before the boarded the plane ??

Edited December 9 by oldypigeonpopper

[Mungler]

Reports are coming in that Russia has had to abandon a whole load of much needed kit, a warm water naval base or two and has men trapped inside Syria.

An interesting lesson for Russia (and the rest of the world) in being over stretched?

This must be a seriously embarrassing loss for Putin and I wonder what the Russian people make of this and his wider decision making.

 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

44 minutes ago, Mungler said:

Reports are coming in that Russia has had to abandon a whole load of much needed kit, a warm water naval base or two and has men trapped inside Syria.

An interesting lesson for Russia (and the rest of the world) in being over stretched?

This must be a seriously embarrassing loss for Putin and I wonder what the Russian people make of this and his wider decision making.

Are they even aware, he controls his media.

 

"For the want of a nail, the battle was lost."

[Mungler]

7 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Are they even aware, he controls his media.

 

"For the want of a nail, the battle was lost."

There’ll be a few on here along soon to tell us what Russia Today have made of this brilliant strategic Russian withdrawal 😆

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Yes indeed, otherwise known as "tactical overstretch"

 

I see Israel took the opportunity to grab the Golan Heights and to destroy many of the stockpiled weapons left by Russia and the Assad regime.

[toontastic]

25 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

 

 

I see Israel did the world a favour and destroyed many of the stockpiled weapons left by Russia and the Assad regime.

Corrected it for you

[oldypigeonpopper]

2 hours ago, Mungler said:

Reports are coming in that Russia has had to abandon a whole load of much needed kit, a warm water naval base or two and has men trapped inside Syria.

An interesting lesson for Russia (and the rest of the world) in being over stretched?

This must be a seriously embarrassing loss for Putin and I wonder what the Russian people make of this and his wider decision making.

 

Hello, On the news Putin/ Russia  been in talks with the Rebel Army ??

[Mungler]

2 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said:

Hello, On the news Putin/ Russia  been in talks with the Rebel Army ??

It would make sense but the rebel army will be less than well disposed what with the years of Russian airstrikes and gassing etc.

As an aside, Ukraine and Syria (and that mercenary fella’s abortive charge on Moscow) have showed that speed is everything in overwhelming unprepared / under motivated defence structures and systems. 

[Mice!]

7 minutes ago, Mungler said:

As an aside, Ukraine and Syria (and that mercenary fella’s abortive charge on Moscow) have showed that speed is everything in overwhelming unprepared / under motivated defence structures and systems.

Always has been, get there first, tell no one your coming and bring more men!

9 hours ago, ditchman said:

what does give me hope at the moment is the appearance of the freedom of the women who are celibrating with their families ..in a variety of different costums...some are even not wearing headscarfes

dont forget before the Assad family took over Syria,,, the country was very westernised and cultured..and all religions co exisited with each other..................maybe there is some memory of that left they wish to return to

Yes I watched a bit on the news and everything looked normal, men and women out on the streets and in cars, not just masked up men firing AKs into the air.

[oldypigeonpopper]

Hello, Interesting times ahead for Syria now, Will the Waring fractions settle their differences and form a new Government,  Respect their Women , Restart Schools Start to rebuild, etc

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Now all of this puts Iran on the next to topple list.

[ditchman]

1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Now all of this puts Iran on the next to topple list.

HHmmmmmm ...i dont thinkyou are far wrong dave.......the internet savvy folk of Iran will see these reports..

[Dave-G]

10 minutes ago, ditchman said:

HHmmmmmm ...i dont thinkyou are far wrong dave.......the internet savvy folk of Iran will see these reports..

Beats me how such a weedy looking runt got that much control.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

1 minute ago, Dave-G said:

Beats me how such a weedy looking runt got that much control.

Read up on his and his families history, Quite interesting.

[ditchman]

before his brother died...he was studying to be an eye doctor.....which highlights that the medicle profession has the propencity to do dire things and take pecunary advantage of the populace

Edited December 9 by ditchman

[oowee]

On 08/12/2024 at 16:29, Mice! said:

I very much doubt that, it'll be the same as everywhere else, chaos, murder and bad news, why would anyone go back?

With sharply competing agendas, Turkey and Israel have already laid out what they say are their redlines regarding Syria, with Turkey saying it would not accept the Kurdish PKK or Islamic State benefiting from the new situation, even as it promised to help Syrian migrants in Turkey, which hosts some 3 million refugees, to return.

Hundreds of Syrian refugees had gathered at two border crossings in southern Turkey by Monday, eagerly anticipating their return after the fall of Assad’s government.

^^^^ Braver than me. Who knows what you are going back to. 

[Mice!]

2 minutes ago, oowee said:

Hundreds of Syrian refugees had gathered at two border crossings in southern Turkey by Monday, eagerly anticipating their return after the fall of Assad’s government.

^^^^ Braver than me. Who knows what you are going back to.

From what I've seen of the camps refugees are in they are hellish , it's those that have gone further that I can't imagine going back.

And your right, they've no idea what will happen on their return. 

[Raja Clavata]

There also reports of Iran being in communication with the new regime which makes sense.

Another TBD implication to all this is the fact Damascus was the hub through which all of the Russsian backed “Africa Corps” passed in and out of Africa through.

More petrol poured on the flames of an already volatile global instability fire. 2025 is going to be interesting, to say the least.

[Rewulf]

1 hour ago, Raja Clavata said:

More petrol poured on the flames of an already volatile global instability fire. 2025 is going to be interesting, to say the least.

If you dont like Tousi, you definitely wont like this guys take on it 

Fast forward through the 5 minute ad in the middle of the video (if you get that far !)

 

[Mungler]

24 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

If you dont like Tousi, you definitely wont like this guys take on it 

Fast forward through the 5 minute ad in the middle of the video (if you get that far !)

 

Labour has just sent over £11m for aid.

And to whom, precisely, you may well wonder?

We’ll have tax paying pensioners freezing this winter but we have spare money to spaff round the world. 

Why is it so hard for any elected government to understand that this primary responsibility is to their own electorate?

Why do we want to get involved at all? Has history not shown us what a fools errand it is and how aid invariably never reaches the intended recipient. Let’s let the wealthy Arab oil states sort it all out. 

Edited December 9 by Mungler

[Raja Clavata]

26 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

If you dont like Tousi, you definitely wont like this guys take on it 

Fast forward through the 5 minute ad in the middle of the video (if you get that far !)

 

I don’t know Tousi, just really don’t appreciate his “style”, this guys style is much better in my opinion and let’s face it the whole sherbang is so fubar it’s probably better to be slightly satirical about it all.