Agriv8 Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 Well in the words of a well known song - I predict a riot . Before or after e far right take a large chunk of the undicided agriv8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 Hello, With all the Illegal Immigrants in UK it could very much happen in UK , It is said we have a million in UK but over many years, Merkel allowed that in one go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 6 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, With all the Illegal Immigrants in UK it could very much happen in UK , It is said we have a million in UK but over many years, Merkel allowed that in one go We have FAR MORE than a MILLION. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 14 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: We have FAR MORE than a MILLION. Hello, I am sure it is TT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defender Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 The future doesn't look good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: We have FAR MORE than a MILLION. figures are always manipulated.....MANY years ago there was some squit about immigrants in Yarmouth and the local news /govt says there was 1800 migrants in Yarmouth blah blah blah i had a mate who was a very senior police officer in Norfolk and he confided in me (this was many years ago) that there was 7500 immigrants in yarmouth and that was then some big lies flying about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 1 hour ago, ditchman said: figures are always manipulated.....MANY years ago there was some squit about immigrants in Yarmouth and the local news /govt says there was 1800 migrants in Yarmouth blah blah blah i had a mate who was a very senior police officer in Norfolk and he confided in me (this was many years ago) that there was 7500 immigrants in yarmouth and that was then some big lies flying about Seemingly not in their dna to speak without forked tongue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 Words fail me, the level of stupidity, or intent, that European governments have perpetrated against the indigenous populations is criminal. There is a long and growing list of incidents, where a migrant with clear indications of ill intent towards innocent people, has been allowed to stay, and tragic consequences have arisen from it. In normal situations, this would amount to criminal negligence, in the US culpable homicide, at the very least, a failure in duty of care of the government to protect its citizens from harm. Yet here we are, more and more incidents, where governments, including our own, try and wriggle out of any responsibility for these actions, often lying about the perp, or reasons behind it. There seems to be little accountability from our elected leaders these days, and its about time the electorate showed them the error of their ways in that respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted February 14 Author Report Share Posted February 14 39 minutes ago, Rewulf said: There seems to be little accountability from our elected leaders these days, and its about time the electorate showed them the error of their ways in that respect. For some of us the right to vote is being removed on spurious grounds, to thwart the opportunity to show them the error of their ways in May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Words fail me, the level of stupidity, or intent, that European governments have perpetrated against the indigenous populations is criminal. There is a long and growing list of incidents, where a migrant with clear indications of ill intent towards innocent people, has been allowed to stay, and tragic consequences have arisen from it. In normal situations, this would amount to criminal negligence, in the US culpable homicide, at the very least, a failure in duty of care of the government to protect its citizens from harm. Yet here we are, more and more incidents, where governments, including our own, try and wriggle out of any responsibility for these actions, often lying about the perp, or reasons behind it. There seems to be little accountability from our elected leaders these days, and its about time the electorate showed them the error of their ways in that respect. Glad I'm not the only one pondering about this situation. Maybe it all comes back to our lack of a constitution? Not researched the rest of Europe yet. Just sitting under the hedge again musing that when us oldies were yoofs at least we had a bit of use to the politicos. Men destined for cannon fodder or the pit, women the typing pool. All expected to have a useful working life contributing money and effort towards building society and the country? Now, seemingly we are despised for living so long and being an unwanted drain on society, our contribution being long forgotten but gleefully given away to the worlds' non contributors whilst some of our unfortunates are legislated against financially? Must be so gratifying to be an mp with such levels of empathy? Edited February 14 by old man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 9 minutes ago, Penelope said: For some of us the right to vote is being removed on spurious grounds, to thwart the opportunity to show them the error of their ways in May. Its the continuing degradation of the veil of democracy. Stopping the local elections in May (in some areas) is a blatant assault on it, and it will continue to be abused. In reality, ordinary people should be making much more noise about this, yet we have become apathetic to whats happening. 6 minutes ago, old man said: Now, seemingly we are despised for living so long and being an unwanted drain on society, our contribution being long forgotten but gleefully given away to the worlds' non contributors whilst some of our unfortunates are legislated against financially? In marxist societies, people were regarded as assets as long as they were useful, as long as they worked and contributed towards the state. We sort of live in a capitalist society, with socialist undertones of caring for the needy and aged, this works well as long as there are enough contributors, and generally less needy. We are fast approaching a time when the needy outweigh the contributors, due to the need for governments to placate the needy for votes. The leaders of this country will tell you they need to import foreign labour (and their dependants) because jobs need to be filled, ignoring the lazy and feckless workforce who are paid to do nothing, ensuring their continued votes, both main parties are absolutely guilty of this. To summarise, we are heading to a place where that marxist society might be favourable, or indeed necessary, due to the useless governments appetite for votes. Its not a good path to be on, and I believe social unrest might well be the tipping point before they would dare to implement such a drastic course. This might sound unrealistic, a bit barmy, but when I see what this labour government, and the government before it doing, is to wreck the economy purposely, and flood the UK with millions of (possibly loyal) migrants. They are forcing the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted February 14 Author Report Share Posted February 14 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Rewulf said: I believe social unrest might well be the tipping point Worth a listen. The man appears to know his onions. Edited February 14 by Penelope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrayA Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 VP JD Vance is talking a lot of sense on this issue, basically, the threat to European democracy isn't from Russia/China/AI etc etc but the threat from within... & that we shouldn't be afraid of what the people say, want or vote. Europe, inc the UK is going to have to get very tough on who can come here and stay here, why it took Labour to ban anyone coming here illegally to have citizenship, is a mystery to me, should have always been the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted February 14 Author Report Share Posted February 14 Just now, GrayA said: VP JD Vance is talking a lot of sense on this issue, basically, the threat to European democracy isn't from Russia/China/AI etc etc but the threat from within... & that we shouldn't be afraid of what the people say, want or vote. Europe, inc the UK is going to have to get very tough on who can come here and stay here, why it took Labour to ban anyone coming here illegally to have citizenship, is a mystery to me, should have always been the case. Agreed. Just listened to his speech at the security conference in Munich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houseplant Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 As I've said many times before, Germany and Europe in general (including UK) have ****ed themselves. There is no way back that is palatable, but this disaster can be slowed down. Time to ditch all international commitments relating to asylum law and management of illegal migrants. Again, I write as an immigrant and the son of immigrants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted Saturday at 09:28 Report Share Posted Saturday at 09:28 6 hours ago, Houseplant said: As I've said many times before, Germany and Europe in general (including UK) have ****** themselves. There is no way back that is palatable, but this disaster can be slowed down. Time to ditch all international commitments relating to asylum law and management of illegal migrants. Again, I write as an immigrant and the son of immigrants. The difference you did not move to New Zealand to take over. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B686 Posted Sunday at 08:59 Report Share Posted Sunday at 08:59 Think there is definitely more chance of one of us being run over or stabbed by an asylum seeker than nuked by putin that’s for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted Sunday at 09:39 Report Share Posted Sunday at 09:39 On 15/02/2025 at 03:10, Houseplant said: As I've said many times before, Germany and Europe in general (including UK) have ****** themselves. There is no way back that is palatable, but this disaster can be slowed down. Time to ditch all international commitments relating to asylum law and management of illegal migrants. Again, I write as an immigrant and the son of immigrants. That shows the common sense that obviously caused you to jump ship? Little common sense to be found in the political arena here, seems like the hidden influencers are in charge now? In and out mp's win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted Sunday at 10:27 Report Share Posted Sunday at 10:27 1 hour ago, B686 said: Think there is definitely more chance of one of us being run over or stabbed by an asylum seeker than nuked by putin that’s for sure. Seems so, another one yesterday...https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cew5v48w54qo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B686 Posted Sunday at 10:35 Report Share Posted Sunday at 10:35 Good on the delivery driver! Shame he didn’t park on his head though. He would of probably been arrested for dangerous driving and a racist attack had it been in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted Sunday at 11:00 Report Share Posted Sunday at 11:00 22 minutes ago, B686 said: Good on the delivery driver! Shame he didn’t park on his head though. He would of probably been arrested for dangerous driving and a racist attack had it been in this country. I believe, though have no proof that arrest of both parties at an incident allows the peelers the maximum chances of success? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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