Tobyb525 Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 I was speaking to my gun dealer today who was saying he could shoot just as well with the s/b 12g he was given 40 years ago as any £10,000+ gun! If it shoots streight and it fits, why change it? Toby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaikalsRule90 Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 (edited) Not to mention a cheap gun to go out and beat the toffs with. I thank you Edited May 4, 2009 by BaikalsRule90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 I think it will fall on deaf ears I think you should get yourself a decent gun I would reply but i dont make a habit of talking to people who only have a medalist I will second that.......when I hit the big time and moved up to a second hand lanber, I would'nt give a Baikal owner the time of day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 I was speaking to my gun dealer today who was saying he could shoot just as well with the s/b 12g he was given 40 years ago as any £10,000+ gun!If it shoots streight and it fits, why change it? Toby what even on fast simo pairs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RemmySPS Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Mmmm it’s a funny old world isn’t it. My next door neighbour thinks that anyone who talks posh is an idiot, And anyone who drives a big flash car……is and idiot, And anyone who has a beautiful wife or girlfriend is and idiot, And anyone who had a very well paid job and has lots of money…… is and idiot, ……..can anyone sense a little bit of envy anywhere here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT1 Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 All a bit strange really, most snobs I have found are the ones walking around with a 20k+ gun, but that wont make them a better shot (as been said many times before) All mine are budget guns, Bettinsoli, a 4 year old spanish SBS and an 80yr old Midland, the latter two bargain basements that have now been restored, and I think they are cracking guns, am happy with them and they all do the job fine. Provided you are happy with your gun and it's a comfortable fit, it's who's behind the trigger that makes a difference, not what name is on the action. That said, a cogswell has come up so offloading the lot and getting it, it may not fit, it might not be comfortable, but its got the name. What what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 All a bit strange really, most snobs I have found are the ones walking around with a 20k+ gun, but that wont make them a better shot (as been said many times before) All mine are budget guns, Bettinsoli, a 4 year old spanish SBS and an 80yr old Midland, the latter two bargain basements that have now been restored, and I think they are cracking guns, am happy with them and they all do the job fine. Provided you are happy with your gun and it's a comfortable fit, it's who's behind the trigger that makes a difference, not what name is on the action. That said, a cogswell has come up so offloading the lot and getting it, it may not fit, it might not be comfortable, but its got the name. What what It's funny how I have seen lots of people with expensive guns and I have yet to actually see someone with an expensive gun who is a rubbish shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Me neither, Mungler. I stood watching an elderly chap at Fennes this week belting midis screaming off the tower, with a Watson Bros 20b (a thing of beauty). I counted him 'kill' 19 ex 20, which is outstanding for a fixed-choke game gun firing 25g loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW80 Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 I'm not a gun snob, but as soon as i can afford it (if i can ever afford it) i will be buying a 20g Beretta 687EELL, i have no idea if it will make me shoot better (i doubt it will) but i just want to have said i have/had one, It's just the same as a few years ago i really wanted an impreza, i finally got it and keep it 2 months but at least i can say i owned one!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 It's funny how I have seen lots of people with expensive guns and I have yet to actually see someone with an expensive gun who is a rubbish shot Bloke who sometimes goes to my local shoot has a Krieghoff, I've always beaten his score with my Mossberg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Bloke who sometimes goes to my local shoot has a Krieghoff, I've always beaten his score with my Mossberg Do the people who win the shoots use Mossbergs/Baikals though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Of course not, it's just thats he's not that good yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 (edited) Nothing wrong with buying an expensive gun, if you can afford it. If I could afford it, I'd buy shedloads of 'em. Krieghoff, DT10, Perazzi, F3, bring 'em on. One for every day of the week However, I can't afford it, so I won't be buying them any time soon. It's just nice to own beautiful things All this criticism of expensive guns is just a green-eyed monster envy thing. Edited May 15, 2009 by Chard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Nothing wrong with buying an expensive gun, if you can afford it. If I could afford it, I'd buy shedloads of 'em. Krieghoff, DT10, Perazzi, F3, bring 'em on. One for every day of the week However, I can't afford it, so I won't be buying them any time soon. It's just nice to own beautiful things All this criticism of expensive guns is just a green-eyed monster envy thing. Very true. It's all a bit chippy and must be horrible to continually begrudge others their possessions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilishdave Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 I have had a medalist for quite a few years and have shot most things with it. Sporting Skeet Olympic Skeet ABT DTL Double Trap Grouse Partridge Wood Cock Pheasants Gease Ducks Moor Hens Fox Rabits Squirels Pigeons Crows Jays Magpies I am sure there are a few others I have forgoten. My point is as a multi choke it is a versitile gun and if you point it in the right direction when you pull the trigger it will break or kill the target. I am not the best shot in the world but my Medalist has helped me win the A Class at my local 100 bird sporting comp the last two years on the trot that is a comp with 90-120 entrants. In heind sight I would probably buy a good second hand Browning Berreta for what I paid for the Medalist. and it would be a better quality gun. I have had my medalist for a number of years now and I dont have a massive urge to upgrade because it does what I want it to do. No doubt once I have finished customizing my rifles at some point I will probably upgrade to a cynergy. I might even go for the plastic one just to provoke a reaction on the grouse moor (joke). Referance the snobery thing; I know quite a few proper toffs through the shooting they tend to have the best and dont realy give a stuff what any one else has. It is the inbetween people who have more than most but not as much as the proper toffs that try to exert their status by havinga better gun car house etc. Just my take on it. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 I have seen people shoot game 'badly' with expensive guns, well expensive everything really from the obligatory RR Vogue to the high maintenance missus standing there just for an excuse to get dressed up. They are mainly laughed at by beaters and pickers up all season long, until the keepers day shoots come along when it is their turn and things tend to go a bit quiet in the wagon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 (edited) Bloke who sometimes goes to my local shoot has a Krieghoff, I've always beaten his score with my Mossberg Same here! Last Sunday I was shooting my old Remmy 1100 and missed the last bird out of ten fast crossers. Shooting next was a bloke with a super dooper Caesar Guerini that had more scroll-work than a well-tattooed *****. He commented on 'that old gas-pipe' that I'd just used. He missed eight of them. He blamed the shells! If you have a 'nice' expensive gun - use it, don't flash it to belittle those of meagre means. Edited May 15, 2009 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT1 Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 I certainly was implying that expensive guns are **** shots, merely that I detest the few with a work of art for a firearm who sneer at the person next to him/her with a budget gun. Admittably there are not many who do it, but those that do leave a bad taste, I suppose it's similar to the person turning up at a shot with a smaller bore and some others not agreeing with it debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 ... I detest the few with a work of art for a firearm who sneer at the person next to him/her with a budget gun ... It's sad if it happens, however, I've never witnessed such an occurrence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaseone Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 I have now sold all my expensive guns and bought an Auto and NO I never had a Lanber thing, but have seen useless shots use them they just do not understand what spending the extra £1500 would do for them If they bought a decent gun in the first place it would save all those misses K80 are pants to heavy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 I have now sold all my expensive guns and bought an Auto and NO I never had a Lanber thing, but have seen useless shots use them they just do not understand what spending the extra £1500 would do for them If they bought a decent gun in the first place it would save all those misses K80 are pants to heavy Never a truer word spoken, The old "It goes bang when I pull the trigger so what is the difference" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 I almost shudder at the thought of the times I've seen a local gent out with one of his ancient purdeys leaning it up against fences in the mud, getting it soaked etc etc just generally not giving a toss about it. I'm told by his keeper its one of a matched pair and they're rather valuable but he cannot get him to look after them properly. What it must be like to have enough money to not care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 I almost shudder at the thought of the times I've seen a local gent out with one of his ancient purdeys leaning it up against fences in the mud, getting it soaked etc etc just generally not giving a toss about it. I'm told by his keeper its one of a matched pair and they're rather valuable but he cannot get him to look after them properly. What it must be like to have enough money to not care hence cheap and cheerful for me, i dont care if the mossys get run over by a truck when im out - as long as im not holding them at the time that is but whatever floats your boat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George1990 Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 If I had loads of money I'd get a nice looking nice shooting one - but only to please myself. I don't care what guns people have got and I really don't care what other people think of my gun. (although it does look good ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groach1234 Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 For all i do not like this fact of snobbery shown in the original post, i also feel that an expensive gun such as a holland is a piece of art, when you look at the craftsmanship that has gone into it and that they look as good as they do after 80 years it is amazing. I know someone who had a pair of 1920's Purdey until the got stolen and has replaced them with a pair of Hollands. They are the most beautiful guns i have ever seen and so feel they should be appreciate as art and the assumption it is for a snob or bad shot should not be made. However i do feel someone like in that first post who mocks a person's gun is simply a **** nothing else. George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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