nicknsd1978 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Having a real torid time of late with skeet to the point that I'm ready to give it up. No matter how hard I try I'm just not getting it. At best I'm getting 20 but I have tried sporting now 3 times and getting 28 out of 50 which I'm rather chuffed with. I know it's not the best score but it's so much more fun than skeet....my question is though if I'm rubbish at skeet am I ever going to get to grips with sporting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) Have you tried shooting at a different clay ground regarding skeet and and sporting. A place I used to go had two sporting layouts, one i could clear up with a 20b sxs with game cartridges and the other with my 12b and clay carts, my best was 32/50. I wouldn't worry about it to much. Edited December 21, 2015 by Albert 888 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Nick, 20 isn't a bad score at skeet so don't be disheartened. Spending an hour with a good coach would see you score higher too, although relatively simple in that it is alway the same presentation of targets, barring the influence of weather, there are so many areas where poor technique will cost you dearly. Skeet covers lots of the fundamentals of sporting so it really is a great place to spend time and hone technique, but you want to make sure that your technique is sound to start with. It is possible to try too hard and you are maybe at that point just now, so a good coach will take you back to first principles and will work from the ground up to make sure that your stance, posture, mount, hold points, kill points, etc are all where they should be. Getting that right and seeing a higher score will lift your confidence too and that will carry on to the sporting layout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckandswing Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 I shoot sporting every week and i do well. Never shot skeet so I would suggest you don't need to be good at skeet to be good at sporting. You may struggle with skeet like sporting birds perhaps. Lets be honest though, I just enjoy bing outside and shooting with like minded people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 90 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 As grrclark has said above 20 isn't rubbish. The trouble is when you go shoot & watch others shoot who have probably been shooting some time they make it look very easy ! - don't beat yourself up, don't feel you're rubbish or you'll never reach your goal be positive, think about every shot, be fluent, don't try too hard & you may just surprise yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee. Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Skeet is a regimental, repetitive discipline and it's all about technique and mental approach (same as trap). It will give you a good foundation to build from as a lot of the shots in skeet are similar to what you will find at sporting. 20 for a beginner isn't bad so dont beat yourself up. George Digweed cut his teeth at skeet before sporting. I've shot with shooters who shoot other disciplines, Team GB gold winners and world champions, on a skeet range and they couldn't shoot it for toffee. Just because you're not the greatest at one discipline does not mean you can't excel at another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jega Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Nothing wrong with a score of 20 at skeet . Me and my lad always start a session with a round of skeet ,just gets everything warmed up and moving correctly . As Gee says it is quite a regimented format but i reckon that can only be a good thing in regards to getting a consistent mount ,foot position and lead perception . Don't get too hung up on scores just enjoy it and you'll find the scores will improve . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 hello, going back very many years in the now gone oxford clay pigeon club we had a skeet lay out/ down the line/and sporting, i to could not get on with skeet but DTL and sporting was ok, i say ok but i could never do like some scores that were always in the high 20s on a 25 bird shoot, my best at sporting was 22/25 but i had a very early 1980s double trigger BRNU O/U but the back trigger fired both barrels, cannot remember the model but it put my score up to a reasonable level, but most of all like duck and swing i to just enjoyed a day out with good company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 hello, going back very many years in the now gone oxford clay pigeon club we had a skeet lay out/ down the line/and sporting, i to could not get on with skeet but DTL and sporting was ok, i say ok but i could never do like some scores that were always in the high 20s on a 25 bird shoot, my best at sporting was 22/25 but i had a very early 1980s double trigger BRNU O/U but the back trigger fired both barrels, cannot remember the model but it put my score up to a reasonable level, but most of all like duck and swing i to just enjoyed a day out with good company. i think one of the club members was M Rouse who was a very good shot maybe someone on here can confirm if my memory is correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 i think one of the club members was M Rouse who was a very good shot maybe someone on here can confirm if my memory is correct? or even our oxford gunsmith Hans who was in the Venables Gun Shop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknsd1978 Posted December 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Yes maybe a few sessions with a coach would do me good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 When you look at it, you are getting 80% at Skeet and 56% at Sporting, Skeet teaches you about angles and lead, all of which you need at Sporting, A good Sporting shoot will beat you with different speeds and angles, not distant crossers, at the Essex last year I dropped more on silly close in stuff than I did on the distant crossers. Keep up with the Skeet, it will stand you in good stead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 I started off as a sporting shooter and really struggled the first few times I shot skeet. In fact I only improved at it when I switched to a longer barrelled gun. Once I started to get the hang of it and my scores crept up into the early 20s I began to really enjoy it. The funny thing was as I began to take it more seriously and really wanted to improve, my average scores started to drop a little. No doubt I was getting frustrated by misses because I wanted to do well and overthinking it for the same reason. However it definitely improved my sporting shooting, especially crossing targets. A good Sporting shoot will beat you with different speeds and angles, not distant crossers, at the Essex last year I dropped more on silly close in stuff than I did on the distant crossers. Keep up with the Skeet, it will stand you in good stead We quite often set up a slow, close in bird at the shoot and a lot of people seem to have trouble with that kind of target. Not sure if they take it for granted or just don`t realise how accurate they need to be for such a close target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) My one and only venture out of the 70's at sporting was when I shot a 90/100. It stood as the high gun until a late shooter hit a 91. He was a 17 year old who represented his country at SKEET. Skeet targets are close and probably akin to the glass ball and feather era though perhaps much faster. Today's sporting clay targets are thrown at distances and speeds which many would not dream of firing at for fear of wounding and the pure fact they may not have even seen it. I know of one local, regular, competition where some targets are over 50 metres. This type of shoot is set up to be won by a pro and not your every day man out for enjoyment once or twice a month. Edited December 22, 2015 by B25Modelman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 I like the skeet range as a place to start novices and to develop technique I also personally like to practice a bit there. But being good at one doesn't make good at another skill does. Shoot what you enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Coming from Behind To straighten the angle and work out the lead Concentration and practise are all that you need Unless in the first instance most targets you miss Then you may find some instruction will not go amiss Skeet targets are closer as they whizz through the sky How on earth did I miss them you ask yourself why? Sporting’s more perplexing varied array Can dishearten even the gifted on any given day With time, practise, money and some ability Success will surely be yours eventually Sometimes success at the beginning can foster despair round the bend Or if at the start you can’t hit a barn-door, don’t worry my friend The hare lost to the tortoise as Aesop did say And reputations of champions can be built upon clay! STOTTO Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknsd1978 Posted December 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Should be in a Christmas card that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Coming from Behind To straighten the angle and work out the lead Concentration and practise are all that you need Unless in the first instance most targets you miss Then you may find some instruction will not go amiss Skeet targets are closer as they whizz through the sky How on earth did I miss them you ask yourself why? Sportings more perplexing varied array Can dishearten even the gifted on any given day With time, practise, money and some ability Success will surely be yours eventually Sometimes success at the beginning can foster despair round the bend Or if at the start you cant hit a barn-door, dont worry my friend The hare lost to the tortoise as Aesop did say And reputations of champions can be built upon clay! STOTTO Regards Very good wish I could use that at times!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 i think one of the club members was M Rouse who was a very good shot maybe someone on here can confirm if my memory is correct? Yes, Micky rouse is a fine shot, exceptionally quick when he needs to be and is still on the shooting scene. I shot my first ever 100 Reg Sporting with him back in God knows when, I do remember it was a squadded event at Hinksey Hill Farm GC, Oxford, a lovely little ground, but very close to some large houses which, inevitably meant it's days were numbered, and, sadly it closed a good few years back. As for Skeet being good practice for Sporting, I would personally recommend it, you get all sorts of angles, and you learn timing on the pairs, excellent all round practice, ask that Guy Digweed, he's shot a few rounds of Skeet earlier in his career. Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Ask that Guy Digweed, he's shot a few rounds of Skeet earlier in his career. Cat. Yes but what has he achieved since? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 When you look at it, you are getting 80% at Skeet and 56% at Sporting, Skeet teaches you about angles and lead, all of which you need at Sporting, A good Sporting shoot will beat you with different speeds and angles, not distant crossers, at the Essex last year I dropped more on silly close in stuff than I did on the distant crossers. Keep up with the Skeet, it will stand you in good stead +1. skeet is good grounding and under estimated.........sporting is more fun and more challengeing but skeet is good for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Yes but what has he achieved since? Not a lot just quite a few world championships Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Not a lot just quite a few world championships Yes 27 world championships but apart from that what has he achieved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 Just a average club shooter then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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