Mr Majyk Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 ok, so i got my shotgun licence a few months ago and ive been having ALOT of fun and i was reading about semi-autos and personally i dont see the point of just one extra shot, (no offense intended to those who do use them.) so i was wandering whats the law say to FAC shotguns? if i were to apply for an FAC shotgun just for a say, 8 shot 12 gauge semi-automatic. but no rifle etc? what do you think theyd say? would it be easy to get the licence for just that shotgun as a coterminus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 You'd need to convince the FLO that you have good reason to own one... Like LOTS of pigeon or rabbits. I have a Beretta 391 2+1 on SGC, and it's easy enough to load the magazine whilst the gun is shouldered. Never had a need for more than the 3 at any one time tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollysp2 Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 You'd need to convince the FLO that you have good reason to own one... Like LOTS of pigeon or rabbits. I have a Beretta 391 2+1 on SGC, and it's easy enough to load the magazine whilst the gun is shouldered. Never had a need for more than the 3 at any one time tbh. Thats wrong as you need to say ''i need one for shooting rooks'' as my mate's FLO said shooting pigeons you don't need more than 3 shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heladoxa Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 ok, so i got my shotgun licence a few months ago and ive been having ALOT of fun and i was reading about semi-autos and personally i dont see the point of just one extra shot, (no offense intended to those who do use them.) so i was wandering whats the law say to FAC shotguns?if i were to apply for an FAC shotgun just for a say, 8 shot 12 gauge semi-automatic. but no rifle etc? what do you think theyd say? would it be easy to get the licence for just that shotgun as a coterminus? What do you want eight shots for? You shooting rabbits or going to war? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 You'd need to convince the FLO that you have good reason to own one... Like LOTS of pigeon or rabbits. I have a Beretta 391 2+1 on SGC, and it's easy enough to load the magazine whilst the gun is shouldered. Never had a need for more than the 3 at any one time tbh. Thats wrong as you need to say ''i need one for shooting rooks'' as my mate's FLO said shooting pigeons you don't need more than 3 shots. It isn't wrong, it just doesn't sit well with your mates FEO. If you can justify a FAC shotgun then you can have one. You will find them expensive to buy and poor to trade, and I have never found the need, but others have. ATB!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 i find 3 shots is fine for pigeons,but if i wanted a fac shotgun.my flo said just put a letter in from the farmer saying lots of pieons and crows. and thats fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 I was told by my FLO that they are virtually impossible to get in Kent, as its very difficult to prove a need for one. I suspect it varies from County to County. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobt Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 I got one on my ticket at the last renewal, never bought one as they are so limited in what you can use them for. you cant shoot game etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George1990 Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 What do you want eight shots for? You shooting rabbits or going to war? Cos it's fun innit. I've always thought that's what semis were designed for in the first place, as it's only recently they have been restricted to 3 shots on SGC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Why not have a go at practical shotgun? Thats a legitemate reason for owning one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Majyk Posted March 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Why not have a go at practical shotgun? Thats a legitemate reason for owning one. what exactly is practical shotgun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Majyk Posted March 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Cos it's fun innit. I've always thought that's what semis were designed for in the first place, as it's only recently they have been restricted to 3 shots on SGC. Yes kinda cos its fun! 8 shot was only a random number i came up with. but what would be a good reason for fac shotgun gimme some examples? one of my permissions is INFESTED with rabbits im having a **** loada fun trying to keep the numbers down! would that be a good reason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Thats wrong as you need to say ''i need one for shooting rooks'' as my mate's FLO said shooting pigeons you don't need more than 3 shots. That does sit better, just say 'corvid control' What do you want eight shots for? You shooting rabbits or going to war? Don't mention rabbits off the back of trucks either as that does'nt sit well I was told by my FLO that they are virtually impossible to get in Kent, as its very difficult to prove a need for one. I suspect it varies from County to County. I am surprised at that, but as you say each force varies. To be honest the best dusting an FAC auto can get is on vermin days at the end of the season for wrecking a few dreys. As for an honest opinion, heavy when loaded and not ideal for balance, never buy an upmarket semi on FAC as you lose loads of dough on resale as few want them and finally but not least they have very limited use due to restrictions for what they can be used for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Thats wrong as you need to say ''i need one for shooting rooks'' as my mate's FLO said shooting pigeons you don't need more than 3 shots. Why would you need more shots for rooks? Because they fly about in large numbers? I've seen flocks of pigeon up here numbering several hundred... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Majyk Posted March 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Well if i were to get the fac for shotgun then id spend the time looking for the one which i think is just right before buying as im the sorta person who buys something with no real intention of re-sailing it. so im not really worried about re-sale value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 what exactly is practical shotgun? http://www.ukpsa.co.uk/PSGGeneralInfo.pdf A target discipline designed almost specifically for Section 1 Shotguns. Just remember to get vermin as a condition too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 (edited) Its silly really because if you were going to go off the rails you could do virtually as much damage with a 3 shot as you would with a 5 shot. You would have to reload a bit more often thats all. Yet the thinking seems to be that the world is a much safer place and we can all sleep more soundly knowing that you only have three shots in your gun instead of five. Its like the ammunition limits on FACs, if you were a terrorist or some kind of lurking psycopath you would simply ignore it and who is to know? But the rest of us have to put up with only buying small quantities at a time which is a real PIA at times when you have to drive miles and can only buy it face to face. Edited March 17, 2010 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollysp2 Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 (edited) It isn't wrong, it just doesn't sit well with your mates FEO. If you can justify a FAC shotgun then you can have one. You will find them expensive to buy and poor to trade, and I have never found the need, but others have. ATB!! Only going of WEST MERCIA POLICE what exactly is practical shotgun? Why would you need more shots for rooks? Because they fly about in large numbers? I've seen flocks of pigeon up here numbering several hundred... Only going of WEST MERCIA POLICE Edited March 17, 2010 by jollysp2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 When I applied for an FAC shotgun, I was told by my FEO to state, 'crop protection' as the reason to aqquire one. I use an 8 shot, but have never fired the 8 off in one go, apart from trying it out. I wanted it for when the crows/jackdaws flock into my decoys/flapper/floaters. Years ago, using a Lanber O/U, I shot 128 crows/jackdaws in under 3 hours. I couldn't load the shotgun quick emough, and if I had the 8 shot with me, I know I could have possibly doubled th number that I shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Majyk Posted March 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Iknow i'll sound stupid but is an FEO a fire arms enquiry officer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Iknow i'll sound stupid but is an FEO a fire arms enquiry officer? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Majyk Posted March 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Yes. Cheers! better to ask and know rather than not ask and guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majordisorder Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 How about asking for it for doing "one man clay flushes" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Majyk Posted March 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 http://www.ukpsa.co.uk/PSGGeneralInfo.pdf A target discipline designed almost specifically for Section 1 Shotguns. Just remember to get vermin as a condition too! wooooop! just found a video for this and that looks like so much fun! and the video was made here on my little isle of wight! gotta look more into this! thankyou!!! :yp: :look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Militia Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 "I was told by my FLO that they are virtually impossible to get in Kent, as its very difficult to prove a need for one. I suspect it varies from County to County. " If you're trying to get a FAC shotgun for hunting then it is very difficult, since you have to state on your ticket something like: Massive vermin problem, however, why don't you just start doing practical shotgun like I do. I live in kent and I have an FAC shotgun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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