the enigma Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 It's all done by the RFD mate. All you have to do is sign a piece of paper stating that the transaction has taken place, and the RFD should then fax this immediately to the FEB. Been explained above but I was sleeping and never read it Cheers pal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapid rich Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 So is the new '1 off 1 on' rule for similar calibres in yet? Anyone heard? Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Apparently it went live a couple of days ago. Can't say for sure, but the last RFD I visited informed me that it had been implemented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57bigchap Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 So is the new '1 off 1 on' rule for similar calibres in yet? Anyone heard? Rich as far as i am led to believe shotgun can be exchanged that day rfd does paper work rifles etc must be of the same calibre eg .22 for .22 you cant change different calibres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 I was under the impression that there were calibre brackets. i.e rimfire, small centrefire etc. So you could exchange a .22lr for a .17hmr. Has the FEB made any effort to advertise the new policy I wonder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 would n`t think it lol. fancy a change of hmr if funds would permit so hope one on one off comes to pass. save the dreaded paperwork again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Dog Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 rifles etc must be of the same calibre eg .22 for .22 you cant change different calibres Exactly what I have been told by a couple of RFDs today, variations can be made by RFD on the spot, calibre for calibre. Banded system has not been introduced. So it's a 22lr for a 22lr, 223 for 223 etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastiebap Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 As has been said, for anything not a shotgun it is calibre for calibre and like for like. So if (for example)you have a .22lr b/a, you can only trade it in for a .22lr b/a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrob Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 It is both calibre and type which must be "identical". Annoying, as I am changing my .22LR Semi Auto for a .22LR Bolt Action. Just called Lisnasharragh and they said because the action is not identical, it will need a full variation. Dammit!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadEye.Sig Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Sent off my FAC for a variation, from the day I posted it to the day I received it took 9 days, can't get any better than that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrob Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Just an update - I did a one on one off today between semi auto and bolt. Cops said calibre and type must be identical.. well my licence shows "calibre .22" and "type rifle" no mention of semi or bolt, happy days! Proud new owner of a CZ 455 thumbhole! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastiebap Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Just an update - I did a one on one off today between semi auto and bolt. Cops said calibre and type must be identical.. well my licence shows "calibre .22" and "type rifle" no mention of semi or bolt, happy days! Proud new owner of a CZ 455 thumbhole! You at Tommy Beatties by any chance? I've heard he's doing this. Sure fire way to get a stop put to the new system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrob Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 No I haven't heard of him before? Anyway, tbh I don't know whether it is wrong or right. The exact wording of the law, is that "both calibre and type must be identical". My FAC shows Calibre as .22, and type as Rifle. So there is no change there? I am sure when the paperwork is sent off it will soon be returned if there is a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastiebap Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 No I haven't heard of him before? Anyway, tbh I don't know whether it is wrong or right. The exact wording of the law, is that "both calibre and type must be identical". My FAC shows Calibre as .22, and type as Rifle. So there is no change there? I am sure when the paperwork is sent off it will soon be returned if there is a problem. Well, if there is it wont be your fault as it's the RFD that does the paperwork etc. Personally I don't see the issue anyway as a .22 is a .22, I think tying it all down to the nth degree is to keep FEB happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymc Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Just submitted a variation (including address change) to PSNI. Will let you know when I get it back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodcock11 Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Son's FAC sent off for renewal -acknowledged within a week and new FAC received within two weeks - well done Lisnasharragh! Understand that PSNI are going to drop requirement for visitors from across the water to have a certificate of approval if they want to bring firearms with them - this will make life much easier. Anyone got any news on this? Also, if you can get hold of the security form and complete it in advance before going on Stena from Belfast to Cairnryan, the firearms checks are much simpler and faster. You can also pre-complete the form for P&O Larne to Cairnryan but the security procedures at both ends are still quite slow - by way of consolation, fish & chips in the P&O restaurant is brilliant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodcock1 Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 Know of a guy who has had a shotgun for years. Applied for a first rifle in 17hmr. 10 days yes 10 days later he was collecting it. Some turn around, my last renewal was 6 months. You'll see the fees double now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymc Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Just submitted a variation (including address change) to PSNI. Will let you know when I get it back! Wow! PSNI had processed my variation and address change and back in the post on the 23rd Dec! Only a few days after I sent it! Very impressive! Well done PSNI! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the enigma Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Variation to my FAC sent off today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby -doo Posted January 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 just a wee rant ,, i have a good friend asked me about getting a gun and what did i think about what he should get , i asked him wot he would be using it for he said the odd rabbit and that but it had to be a rifle , i said either a .17 hmr or a .22 lr ! bearing in mind this chap it 30 and has "NO" experience ever of shooting what so ever! i was to take him to my gun dealer tonight to let him have a look around and get him an idea of what he could get ! Was away with the hounds on sat when my phone rang , he had went to another dealer not to far away from my house and bought himself a .223 howa !! the man said dont be silly buying a small rifle go get the big 1 and be done with it !!! does anyone else other than me think this is wrong ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul87 Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Will he even be granted a CF from the get go? I thought you had to have experience with the likes of a rimfire first. If this is the case then it was poor advice from the dealer. But also if its only for Rabbits then .223 is a bit overkill and expensive to shoot. I have found there are some dealers about who will tell you what you want according to their stock or to make a few extra quid instead of giving you good advice. e.g. I enquired about a beretta 302/303 and was advised to buy a Hatsan. Ok on paper the hatsan may be better with 3" magnum chamber and steel proof, but it wasn't what i wanted or asked for. On another note I'm going to put in for a .22lr shortly can anyone reccomend anywhere good to go to for rimfires within an hours drive of Newtownards. Thanks Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardguy007 Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 just a wee rant ,, i have a good friend asked me about getting a gun and what did i think about what he should get , i asked him wot he would be using it for he said the odd rabbit and that but it had to be a rifle , i said either a .17 hmr or a .22 lr ! bearing in mind this chap it 30 and has "NO" experience ever of shooting what so ever! i was to take him to my gun dealer tonight to let him have a look around and get him an idea of what he could get ! Was away with the hounds on sat when my phone rang , he had went to another dealer not to far away from my house and bought himself a .223 howa !! the man said dont be silly buying a small rifle go get the big 1 and be done with it !!! does anyone else other than me think this is wrong ?? He wouldnt have got it from the dealer up the Drones by any chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 just a wee rant ,, i have a good friend asked me about getting a gun and what did i think about what he should get , i asked him wot he would be using it for he said the odd rabbit and that but it had to be a rifle , i said either a .17 hmr or a .22 lr ! bearing in mind this chap it 30 and has "NO" experience ever of shooting what so ever! i was to take him to my gun dealer tonight to let him have a look around and get him an idea of what he could get ! Was away with the hounds on sat when my phone rang , he had went to another dealer not to far away from my house and bought himself a .223 howa !! the man said dont be silly buying a small rifle go get the big 1 and be done with it !!! does anyone else other than me think this is wrong ?? Bet any money it's not granted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby -doo Posted January 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 the dealer said no problem as his father has a bita ground ! i know hes my mate but no wey in this earth should he be aloud a gun as big as that without having experence! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciaran Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 It will take longer to get a rifle added on rather than a shotgun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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