ollie Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVRomRSZkUw&feature=feedu What do you guys think of this video? I know it is only a demo but I would be seriously peed off if the police made me do that when I was enjoying my sport within the law. Edited February 26, 2011 by ollie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 Its apparently a regular thing ! I have a shooting friend who noticed a red spot on his chest just before being told to stand stiil by armed police in the pitch black whilst finishing pigeon shooting one night. About 6-7 weeks ago, we were at home and heard the sound of a helicopter. Iy was close so we went to nosy. It was a police incident. Someone had reported a man with a shotgun in a field (just opposite us) - naturally it was the farmer. Two Armed response vehicles, 3 police vehicles and a helicopter 'attended the incident'. The helicopetr (we could clearly hear) called through a loud hailer for the farmer to "stop - lie down with your arms rasied and do not move" ! He was then surrounded by armed police who realised their mistake and slunk off. The house adjacent was that of an MP so that might have made a difference? I rang the police later to ask what had happened. At first they refused to tell me - human rights act apparently, always a good delaying tactic. I asked how they could justify refusing to answer my reasonable enquiry, having seen the incident and been no more than 200 metres from it? I'll make enquiries and get back to you they suggested. I advised that this could be a 'local terrorist' and here am I watching as hes allowed to go free says I - surely you must let me know whether to take cover or get my rifle out(naturally the latter comment was more of a thought)? Half an hour elapsed and the same control room operator came back and said " the incident is now closed, a well meaning member of the public saw a man with a shotgun in a field and called the police". I advised them I thought the manpower response (above) a bit OTT, and suggested they might also be called out later, as I was going shooting a couple of hundred metres from the same spot in a couple of hours. No one came to play though. The whole sorry incident probably cost many thousands of our pounds and theres one more farmer who might not feel able to shoot over his own land, or let anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 well with the policing budget being cut maybe they wont have the money to waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 been there done it got the tee shirt KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duncan Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 Imagine being a country copper answering the phone to Joe Public, who phones in to report 'a man in a field with a gun' I'd be tempted to say "Best place for him!". Terrorists aren't usually known for toting over-and-unders Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripey999 Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 Imagine being a country copper answering the phone to Joe Public, who phones in to report 'a man in a field with a gun' I'd be tempted to say "Best place for him!". Terrorists aren't usually known for toting over-and-unders Duncan You would think that but many years ago I had a permission next to an RAF base in Norfolk. On one Saturday morning, I decided to setup on a field that I had always avoided previously because it was so close to the camp. Just after I had set up the hide and placed out the decoys, I noticed 2 policmen walking from the fence from the corner of the camp and they called out to me on a loudhaller to stand still and put down my weapon etc. After they reached me they pointed to the camp and I saw 30 armed personnel lay down in a defensive posture with their weapon systems pointed at me. The camp contained serious weaponry at the time so they were twitchy and were quick to appologise after they realised what was going on. It did spoil the day though because they had some of the cameras pointed at me the whole time so I packed up early. It transpired that one of the sentries saw what he thought was a terrorist digging himself in ready for a fire fight (muppet). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstancwsw Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 Due to various reasons, i have been surrounded by armed police three times now. The last time was on a bank holiday monday afternoon and closed the A14 the M6 and the M1. It caused chaos and mayhem for all concerned. We were held for 8 hours and let go without charge. Missed a great party because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindeye Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 where i mostly shoot ( lamping) i have had the police helicopter over head on a number of occations to check , many be he was doing his sweeps of the area and many of a time has but his strobe light across the fields . now thats 1 light i want shame it didnt come with a red filter . , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Yep got that t-shirt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 i think they do it just to **** you off,and have nothing better to do.all that money gone wasited tax money again.how many people were robbed while they were out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfletch Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Yep Ive had the police helicopter buzzing overhead, I was standing in the hedge for cover but once I had stepped out and put my arms up as to "what" he just left, I think they just wanted to know I was not hiding from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Fox Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Only been stopped the once, although nothing as extreme as the vid - just annoying as the Police did not know there subject (licence was expired & they made a fuss). Contacted My FLO who spoke to the 2 policemen and put them straight & was looking to put together an info pack (like the BASC's) to issue to rural police so they have an idea how licensing works. The thing that amazed me most was that they didnt contact the Farmer to find out whether we should have been there, that would be the most obvious check to make surely?, more likely to catch a poacher than you are a illegal gun! They have a job to do I suppose & I wouldnt fancy confronting a person with a gun, afterall one misjudged situation and its game over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30-6 Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 I,ve had helicopters do a couple of circles of me, but have never "stopped". I've also had small private planes which seem to "come and have a look" at what you are doing, where a load of SG's could have brought them down. I have phoned the firearms office in the past to ask whether I can carry a photocopy of my liscence rather than the original. They said it's ok, that any vehicles parked around the area (fields or lanes etc.) would have been checked as a matter of course for being linked to gun ownership. Perhaps the Welsh plod are more sensible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 my question would be, in the history of the police helicopter how many terrorists or illegal firearms have been found when they have been out bothering pigeon shooters? i would say nil but the police live in hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripey999 Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 We were out on Thursday on a field close to a housing estate. Due to the location we phoned the police beforehand. During the day a police helicopter came straight from the airport to our field and hovered directly over me and according to my mate on the other side of the field, the camera was pointing directly down to me. I had a roof over the hide and I was in a hedge, so they must have been using body heat or similar camera. They stayed for a couple of minutes, so no chance of any pigeons. I walked out and went back to the car to change my magnet battery, and then eventually they moved over to my mate at the other end. Watched him for a few moments then flew off. They were most likely just practicing drills knowing we there there from the incident log but damn anoyying because it causes the locals to look out to see whats going on and spoils the shooting for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge911 Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 a few year back now was lyin in bed watchin tv when at about 12.15am ish got a phone asking me if i was in the house on my own . my reply being who the **** wants to know . the conversation went on the lines of ; p; it,s sgt so,n,so here are you in the house alone me; no my wife is here with me p; listen very carefully we need you to come outside and listen very carefully to the instructions the officers give you as they are armed. looking out of the window yep they were and there was 4 of them pointing there guns at the house me; we,ll need a minuet to put some clothes on tho p; ok be hurry up the look on my mrs face was mint as i woke her and said get some clothes on the police are outside and need to talk to us a couple of seconds later she shreeked "THEY,VE GOT GUNS" . anyway dressed i go down stairs open the door zap on go the torches and out come the shouts of "ARMED POLICE KEEP YOUR HANDS RAISED ABOUVE YOUR HEAD AND SLOWLY WALK TOWARDS US " as i walked towards them i made the comment "this will do my street cred world of good to which i got the reply "KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT AND KEEP WALKING SLOWLY TOWARDS WITH YOUR HANDS UP" on reaching the middle of the road an officer came and patted me down then escorted me to a waiting police car and proceeded to give my wife the same instructions. in the police car i was introduced to the sargent who i asked if they could hurry up with my wife as she suffers from epilepsy and havin 4 guns pointed at her wouldn,t do her any good. we kept in the car while 6 officers searched the house for "anyone else" they came out and told the sgt the house was clear. the sgt appologised for the inconvenience and they left . i asked the sgt if he would like to check my guns/cabinets but he said no we are lookin for a person not items . this has now become a bit of a novelty as the whole thing was caught on my cctv system and recorded. the next morning i rang them and asked what the whole thing was in aid of and was told . they had recived a phone call from a member of the public that they had seen a person entering my house with a firearm and on checking my address it came up that there were firearms registered there [no **** sherlock] and that we had been the victims of a hoax call??? . never mind the video is a laugh to watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromlc Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 I know a couple of police officers and it wouldn't suprise me if they use this sort of thing(all listed above) as real time training exercises,they love the action and messing with people,that's why they are police.......POWER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanielman Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Always bell the police on certain areas l shoot, they take all your details so saves all the **** happening, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Popper Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 If you went into your local Cop-Shop and asked all of them to raise their hand if they want to go and arrest a tax fraud, then ask which of them would like to go and apprehend a "terrorist with a sniper rifle". You'd probably find your answer to why these occurances are so common. I'm all for security, but where on Earth were they when Derrick Bird was on his rampage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 (edited) A mate of mine had a similar thing inflicted on him and some of his collegues while on an army exercise near aldershot while running on the road with full kit. The copper asked him if he had a licence for the rifle. He replied F=== off Im a squaddie. The coppers were all for arresting them until a sergent turned up and let them go. Later back at camp they were debriefed twice, one by a senior officer and once by MI. You would think the Aldershot police were used to such things, daily event. Edited February 27, 2011 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axor Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Its a pain when it happens. I do a lot of kayak fishing and the Coast Guard have a project called CG66 you fill in all of your details on a central system and when you go out you call the CG and they make a note of you, should you go missing they have all of your details and where you were etc - surly the police could have a system like this with car reg, permissions etc, call them when you go then no wasted police time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 If you went into your local Cop-Shop and asked all of them to raise their hand if they want to go and arrest a tax fraud, then ask which of them would like to go and apprehend a "terrorist with a sniper rifle". You'd probably find your answer to why these occurances are so common. I'm all for security, but where on Earth were they when Derrick Bird was on his rampage? MACDONALDS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 a few year back now was lyin in bed watchin tv when at about 12.15am ish got a phone asking me if i was in the house on my own . my reply being who the **** wants to know . the conversation went on the lines of ; p; it,s sgt so,n,so here are you in the house alone me; no my wife is here with me p; listen very carefully we need you to come outside and listen very carefully to the instructions the officers give you as they are armed. looking out of the window yep they were and there was 4 of them pointing there guns at the house me; we,ll need a minuet to put some clothes on tho p; ok be hurry up the look on my mrs face was mint as i woke her and said get some clothes on the police are outside and need to talk to us a couple of seconds later she shreeked "THEY,VE GOT GUNS" . anyway dressed i go down stairs open the door zap on go the torches and out come the shouts of "ARMED POLICE KEEP YOUR HANDS RAISED ABOUVE YOUR HEAD AND SLOWLY WALK TOWARDS US " as i walked towards them i made the comment "this will do my street cred world of good to which i got the reply "KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT AND KEEP WALKING SLOWLY TOWARDS WITH YOUR HANDS UP" on reaching the middle of the road an officer came and patted me down then escorted me to a waiting police car and proceeded to give my wife the same instructions. in the police car i was introduced to the sargent who i asked if they could hurry up with my wife as she suffers from epilepsy and havin 4 guns pointed at her wouldn,t do her any good. we kept in the car while 6 officers searched the house for "anyone else" they came out and told the sgt the house was clear. the sgt appologised for the inconvenience and they left . i asked the sgt if he would like to check my guns/cabinets but he said no we are lookin for a person not items . this has now become a bit of a novelty as the whole thing was caught on my cctv system and recorded. the next morning i rang them and asked what the whole thing was in aid of and was told . they had recived a phone call from a member of the public that they had seen a person entering my house with a firearm and on checking my address it came up that there were firearms registered there [no **** sherlock] and that we had been the victims of a hoax call??? . never mind the video is a laugh to watch Well post the vid and lets all see the hopeless boys in blue at thier best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duncan Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 I'm all for security, but where on Earth were they when Derrick Bird was on his rampage? Responding to reports as fast as they could with armour and firearms. Just how quick can SWAT be scrambled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsm1968 Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Imagine being a country copper answering the phone to Joe Public, who phones in to report 'a man in a field with a gun' I'd be tempted to say "Best place for him!". Terrorists aren't usually known for toting over-and-unders Duncan The sooner they do tell people this the better. All the resources they throw at the reports by "concerned" citizens, would be better spent educating the public. It makes me mad when I read all the stories here, as the police should be busy with real crime. If they genuinely think the next major terror attack or nut job shooting is going to be started by a man hidden behind a cammo net in a field we are in trouble. Their helicopters are expensive, and many are partly funded by charities. They should never fly for anything other than confirmed emergencies/crimes. That said, I do come into contact with quite a few Air support units through work, and they tell a different different version of the stories you read here. I would complain if it happened to me, as once the ASU crew know your permissions address, they would be unlikely to attend a second time. The more these cases are logged as complaints and not a statistical "successful inquiry" the sooner they will tell Joe Public to stop wasting their time. Rant over.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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